Pass The Ammo

And I’d be right there by yer side to smack you with my PR-24(nightstick) everytime you get out of hand. And I’d constantly brag about me getting to carry a side arm and you didn’t cuz you’d prolly pick some stupid “Avaiation” MOS(job). HAHAHA. Man I’m cool.:cool:

Yeah, let the colored boys do all the fightin’

Krunk: Who is this “they” you’re talking about trying to “cancel military absentee votes”?

Before the election, almost all the left-wing blogs I read had articles about how screwed up it was, and even Randi Rhodes, the shrill, liberal answer to Ann Coulter, had a piece about it. And from this article, Official: Absentee Votes May Go Uncounted – Again, it notes:

Thousands of votes from U.S. troops overseas could go uncounted again in November without emergency legislation extending deadlines for the ballots, a Chicago election official warned President Bush in a letter Tuesday. Nearly 30 percent of military voters who requested ballots in 2000 didn’t get them in time to vote.

Theresa M. Petrone, a Democratic member of Chicago’s three-person Board of Election Commissioners, told Bush the problem could be solved if he proposed emergency legislation giving election officials up to 14 days after Election Day to collect and count ballots.

“Every election cycle, election authorities such as Chicago receive military absentee ballots days or even weeks after the deadline, thus disqualifying these votes from being included in the election tally,” Petrone wrote. “With hundreds of thousands of military personnel serving overseas, the voting bloc obviously could determine the outcome of our next presidential election.”

White House spokesman Ken Lisaius declined to comment, saying he hadn’t seen the letter. Congressional leaders have opposed amending the Help America Vote Act of 2002 and such emergency legislation is unlikely before November.

“Congressional leaders” opposed amending it? Who’s running Congress these days? Not the Democrats, and certainly no liberals…

Chad: We generally just call you guys “chickenhawks” for not fighting the war you support when you call us “cowards” or “traitors” for not supporting the war you won’t fight.

You could go as a civilian contractor. They will take anybody, and you can play an important support role if you really believe in the mission. Or you can pressure the government to tell the truth about the war. You can tell your representatives to treat our veterans better (believe it or not, this Administration has set veterans back, even as they cower behind our troops).

But calling someone a “chickenhawk” doesn’t shift the argument, when you are addressing someone in a leadership position. I am always stunned by the gulf of difference between what military folks have to say about the war and what chickenhawks like Rumsfeld, Limbaugh, Cheney, and Bush have to say. Clearly, it takes a chickenhawk to think that shock and awe is going to work. You have to be naive to think that the Iraqis would thrown parades for us and that we would topple Saddam without a single American death (Bush actually said this to his spiritual advisor).

Credibility matters. When you have a rash, you go to the dermatologist. You don’t go and ask Ann Coulter about it (unless you caught it from her). What does Ann know about treating skin diseases? Probably less than a dermatologist. It is just common sense.

If America needs advice about holding hands in the garden with Saudi princes, arranging business deals with the Commie dictator of vietnam, having fun while everybody is working hard, or driving a business into the ground… we have elected an expert. But on matters other than this, we should defer to people that know what they are doing.

Everybody with any kind of opinion on this war in Iraq should read Operation Truth. It is a website run by veterans and soldiers of the Iraq and Afghan wars. It is a great website and it tells you real ways that you can support the troops, rather than just sit around an talk about it. It is awesome.

All the left wing blogs I saw were busy writing up how bush stole the election. I never saw a damn thing regarding absentee votes. Infact alot of them tried to use the same excuse the democrats used.

Here’s a link on troop disenfranchisement
Count their votes

And here is a more general link on voting machines
Black box Voting

Black box voting isn’t a “lefty” group, there are lots of Republicans getting on board. BBV has demonstrated that they can easily hack the computerized machines and can cover their tracks. They are just pushing for paper ballots for the simple reason that they are much more secure and with a paper trail, they can be counted. Really, I can’t imagine why any honest person would want a voting system that isn’t clear and transparent… it seems like a breeding ground for conspiracy theories. If we have another polarized election like we did in 2004 and the outcome is determined in states with diebold machines, there is a big chance that people will lose faith in the political process altogether. Paper ballots are the only way to go.

Krunk: Do you want me to go find links to a bunch of lefty blogs that were complaining about how the military absentee ballots weren’t getting counted? All this talk about blogs isn’t the point, though.

The point is, you’re accusing “us” of not wanting to count the military absentee ballots, when in fact it was the Democrats who were pushing to get the absentee ballots counted, and the Republicans blocking them—even back in the 2000 election.

And if anyone else is to blame for military ballots not getting counted, it’s the Pentagon and the military itself who don’t get ballots to the deployed troops in time for them to vote and get sent back.

But don’t blame us.

Where have I said I condoned the violation of soldiers rights to vote? I was simply pointing out the fact that liberal democrats went out of their way to throw out votes they knew were going to give republicans the edge. It doesn’t take a Cambridge political scientist to point out what direction the military sways.

If anything I never heard a damn thing from democratic leaders regarding absentee votes. That’s the bottom line. Don’t try to distort the fact Gore knew Florida military staff would of really messed up his chances. So he had no choice.

I’d like to see proof that a Republican tried to smash the absentee vote.

You are right then, Krunk. It doesn’t matter whether our right to vote is being obstructed by republicans or democrats… it is our right. We shouldn’t leave any room for partisanism in this issue.

Read the link I posted above on problems with troop disenfranchisement. And read some of the other stuff. People are screwing with elections all over the place, and it just so happens that the Republicans are winning at the disenfranchisement game right now.

The solution to election fraud is NOT to make sure that you beat your opponenet at defrauding the public. The solution is to eliminate it and let the people pick our leaders. I think it is misguided to point fingers.

The Democrats and Republicans have collaborated for generations to keep third parties out of elections and to force phony choices. Pointing fingers at liberal democrats misses the issue. Just to demonstrate how deep the two-party fraud is, you should read this:

Why Conservatives do better with a Democrat in the White House

If I were a right winger, I’d be totally angry that Republican Presidents consistently increase the size of big government and pass more ambitious restrictions to personal liberties. But I think it is part of the power-sharing agreement that the two parties have. This is why you have to fight for fair elections and why we the people have to nail them to the wall whenever they mess us over… whoever is in power at the moment.

“Do they make sure that the Reservists still have jobs when they come home? Do they lift a finger to look out for soldiers families while they’re away?”

I’m a veteran. I’ve consistently experienced anti-military discrimination from Liberal-leaning employers - sometimes openly. I’ve never once gotten that from a Conservative or Christian boss. In fact, they tend to look for veteran status in a resume or application.

BigT wrote:
“I am always stunned by the gulf of difference between what military folks have to say about the war and what chickenhawks like Rumsfeld, Limbaugh, Cheney, and Bush have to say.”

Same here. The vets - to a man - have nothing but contempt for the capabilities of the ‘insurgents’. Cheney & Rumsfeld especially treat them with higher regard, if that can be imagined.

Just so we’re clear, Chad, one more time — the reason you’re not out there is because you don’t have the guts, right? And if you did have the guts, you’d be out there? Just making sure I have it right.

What the hell does it matter, his personal bravery? Everyone feels fear upon being met with the reality of their mortality, you & I both. That’s simply human and an entirely different issue from supporting the war or not.

He has as much right to speak in support of the war - without serving - as you others do to not support it without making asses of yourselves at the same time. The military is civilian controlled. If it wasn’t, you wouldn’t be able to protest any action it might take, nor would support be meaningful in any regard. Admit it: You count on that civilian control and you’re simply trying to silence him in any underhanded & dishonorable way so you’ll get your way. Ad hominem is the choice attack of shallow, hollow men.

HAHAH!! Here we go again….where do all these people come from? Shouldn’t you all be out protesting something right now? Stop wasting your breathe over here.

…advocacy of intent to kill HAHAHAHA….and to imply that your gonna go tell on him is freakin HILARIOUS!!!!! Go on…go tell on him and see what happens. You think cops are gonna be your little lap dogs and chase him down and put him away for something he wrote on his website that does not “advocate” ANY “intention” to ANY crime.

Cops have better things to do than sit and listen to whiney little liberals trying to get their edge by stooping lower and lower everyday…if you guys don’t win one way, you jut stoop lower the next time. (of course excluding our very own Democrat, Guav)

“Very Interesting” and “Enlist You Cowards” and “Urthshu”….you all have absolutely no common sense and you aren’t going to win anything over here…you’re wasting you’re breathe.

You all brought knives to a gun fight.

So your just a common butt troll. Hmm.

WHOOPS!! Man…yah, I feel stoopid…I was reading that one where you were actually backing Chad up. I thought it said he had no right to speak without serving… DOH!!

So I offer my public apology…any friend of the fighters is a friend of mine…wait a minute…that’s like a double positive…or something…I’m gonna stop while I’m ahead.

Urthshu =

i go away for a few days and i see the trolls ’round ‘ere have settled in and made themselves quiet comfy *dusts off the ole CluebyFour*

Why don’t you work with me at Halliburton if you can’t make the cut for the military. We have lots of jobs for people in Iraq that know firearms. I know you have been just looking for a way to serve, serve with us!

Why do I always get silence whenever I try to recruit for Halliburton- it’s great, you get to play with guns AND you make 15k per month! Sure there’s that thing about getting captured and barbequed in the time square, but isn’t that a small sacrifice for my net worth— oh, and America?

Oh, got to go– Lynne, get the defibrulator! Hope to see you on Fox News!

hey Dick! (how appropriate) my hubbys on his 2nd OIF tour so that line aint gonna work with me.

OT here’s a little diddy the hubby sent me via email i thought yall might enjoy

The two most important events in all of history were the invention of
> >beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get
man
to
> >the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization, and
together
> >were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct
> >subgroups; Liberals and Conservatives.
> > >
> > > Once beer was discovered it required grain, and that was the
beginning
> >of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can was
invented
yet,
> >so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for
them
to
> >be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That’s how
villages
> >were formed.
> > >
> > >Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at
night
> >while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is
known
as
> >the Conservative movement. Other men who were weaker and less skilled
at
> >hunting, learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the
> >nightly BBQ and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing. This
was
the
> >beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal men
eventually
> >evolved into women. The rest became known as girliemen.
> > >
> > >Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of
cats,
> >the trade union, the invention of group therapy and group hugs, and
the
> >concept of Democratic voting to; decide how to divide the meat and
beer
> >that conservatives provided.
> > >
> > >Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest,
most
> >powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. The jackass symbolizes
> >Liberals.
> > >
> > >Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most
prefer
> >white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish, but like
their
> >beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal
fare.
> >Another evolutionary side note; most of their women have higher
> >testosterone levels than their men.
> > >
> > >Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists,
dreamers
in
> >Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the
> >designated hitter rule in baseball, because it wasn’t fair to make
the
> >pitcher also bat.
> > >
> > >Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still
provide
> >for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys,
> >lumberjacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police officers,
> >corporate executives, soldiers, athletes, and generally anyone who
works
> >productively outside government. Conservatives who own companies hire
other
> >conservatives who want to work for a living.
> > >
> > >Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the
producers
and
> >decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe that
Europeans
are
> >more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals
remained
> >in Europe, when conservatives were coming to America. Then the
liberals
> >crept in after the Wild West was tamed, and created a business of
trying
to
> >get MORE for nothing.
> > >
> > >And you thought history was boring.

I mean, no offense to any of you, but Bush is kind of a whiny dork

no offense or anything but dude you’re kinda a whiny dork. you come onto a republican site bashin the prez. and that means you walked open armed into a ClueBatting with a big sign that says HIT ME! come ‘ere and bend over sweety pie

lol nice he got what was coming…..he was a putz

You’ll get over Bush, don’t worry. It took me some time, too.

If you’re gonna put links to the John Birch Society on your website, you should at least read their magazine.

Even they think Bush is a punk who is screwing our troops.

Read this

Hi I’m earth, have we met?

Who gives a flyin frick about the JBS? Not I. Take your “wow, golly, guys, other folks like you think stupid sh!t so you all should think stupid sh!t, too” mentality elsewhere Death Stick.

I don’t think the JBS is stupid when they talk about deficits and republican presidents. They are spot on. And they are right about the UN, too. Read your own link, it says Get US out of the United Nations.

We need leaders who are loyal to AMERICA, not a bunch of corporate lapdancers.

Hey Liz, want to come over and play “Find the WMD”?

Hey Dick go stick all of your Ideology and go stick where the sun dont shine and learn some respect

umm….how about you go stand on a busy highway

Even I, Dick Cheney, have no respect for chickenhawks who won’t serve- except me, I would have gone to Nam, darn it if my wife kept getting pregnant….

Well said JJ

once again well said liz

I agree JJ, with everything you said except about my name.

You guys rock guns, and they are cool. But Big Tobacco kills millions each year, legally, and gets paid. It’s tough. That’s all

But, hey. I ain’t gonna go on about Bush anymore. Sorry if I offended. I just don’t like him. I don’t have a problem with Republicans, I was one until I had to switch to Pat Buchanan.

’so they doesn’t have’ ??? and overcharging is part of the game. they all do.
paying tax,,,,,,,good boy.

Big T alothough i dissagree with you you have a right to spak your mid and i honor you for being a man and Apologizing…..

liz what dose your husband do?

i am not sure waht that is please clarifiy

o ok well he has gratitudy and so do you………

dosent matter last statement still stands

Wow, Liz, you’re such a lady- it would turn me on, but I have this heart problem…. I think I understand why your husband left you to go halfway around the world. It’s like that old joke- why do redneck men die before their wives- because they want to…..

Why don’t you join is in Iraq, Liz, we need someone to watch Abu Gharib, at least until Lynddie England gets out of jail. I know you’re not smart like her, but we still can use your help. What do you say?

bad grammer cant type when pist

the hubby fights now so our son doesnt have to later. he fights over there now so he doesnt have to do it here later when the goat fellating rug muchers came back for more.

how you got married is another story. musta been one of them shotgun weddings

you dont want me within 200 yds of Abu Garab. i’d take a flame thrower to it and park a disney land right smack on it

“and overcharging is part of the game. they all do.
paying tax,,,,,,,good boy.”

You sound like a liberal when you say that. They shouldn’t overcharge. We are in a massive deficit. It weakens the dollar. And it means that our troops get less.

In WWII, everybody did their share. Pay taxes, bought war bonds, recycled…. It’s really a small sacrifice to pay taxes like a “good boy” when you have friends over there. I sure ain’t going to Iraq… but I ain’t gonna deny them helmets either. That’s just cold. I don’t care if you are Grover Norquist himself… it’s just evil to get tight with equipment when you blow so much cheddar on stupid stuff like waste and corporate fraud.

Get ‘im Corti! them’s fighting words!

nvrmnd, he was talking to warpo shucks. Get ‘im STEVE!

carp the stupid fire here is making it hard to breath

no i think it is smoke

running away so soon? we were just getting started

i’m actually pretty nice once you get used to me

well dont worry about it i have to deal with my family