Never Forget
09.11.05
Terrorist attacks can shake the foundations of our biggest buildings, but they cannot touch the foundation of America. These acts shatter steel, but they cannot dent the steel of American resolve.
George W. Bush
Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward, and freedom will be defended.
George W. Bush
The terrorists are fighting freedom with all their cunning and cruelty because freedom is their greatest fear - and they should be afraid, because freedom is on the march.
George W. Bush
Kinda funny how the anti-warers seemed to forget about it.
God Bless, got my 3×5 flag waving high!
# September 11th, 2005 at 9:35 amHow can anyone forgot what these people have done to us, then again liberals ain’t the smartest of people.
# September 11th, 2005 at 2:30 pmYou’re right. It’s a good thing we’ve spent the last two years going after Al Queda. All those Saudi Arabian’s who highjacked those planes… their leaders are going to be caught any day now, with all our troops heading to the Afghan-Pakistan border that is. Oh wait, I did forget, most of our troops are in the wrong place. Oops.
# September 12th, 2005 at 12:45 pmWow, BD! You know the right place for them? Thats impressive. You must be working for some pretty high up information agency’s to know where they should be. Or you must be in with ol’ Bin Laden himself!
Please inform us where they should be, since a simpleton New Yorker like yourself happens to hold all the answers.
# September 12th, 2005 at 1:07 pm‘At feller must b in one a ‘em big ol’ ‘fermation agencies ta know where dem soldiers should be at, I sure wish i were as smart as ‘at feller ‘ere.
# September 12th, 2005 at 3:24 pmI’m all for getting the terrorists, especially the ones that planned 9/11, but we should be going after them, not liberating Iraq. It’s up to a people to liberate themselves. We did it… acutally using the same tactics the insurgents are using now. It’s a historical irony, and a sad one at that.
Not a New Yorker either.
# September 13th, 2005 at 7:24 ambd you amaze me. you said “We did it using the same tactics…”
I say BS. The United States military does not seek shelter in mosques, the US military does not hijack aircraft. The US Military does not utilize suicide bombers, the US Military does not plant IEDs. The US Military uses proven military tactics to out-manuever and out-gun the enemy, period.
WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM?
# September 13th, 2005 at 9:36 amNo need to get testy. There were no mosques, aircraft, suicide bombers or IEDs in the fight for our independence. So you cannot compare the two. What you can compare is the use of gurella tactics.
We certainly can out gun and manuever, but it is a bit of mess, isn’t it?
All I’m saying is that we should have used our military to go after Bin Laden - 100% of it. And damn any countires that are hiding him. If it’s Syria, we go get him… If it’s Jordan, get him… Saudi Arabia.. get him. If intelligence said he was in Iraq - then there is your justification. Even if he was “maybe” in Iraq. I just wish a little more common sense was used after 9/11. Just a little.
# September 13th, 2005 at 9:54 amOK bd, I’m going to say this once. There is more to the war on terror than just dealing with Mr. bin Laden. It is not common sense to send 100% of the U.S. Military after one man. True, there’s no evidence linking Iraq or Saddam Hussein to the specific 9/11 attack, but there is evidence linking Saddam Hussein and his government to international terrorism and to Al Qaida.
As Senator John F. Kerry said on Jan 23, 2003, “Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real…”
Or are you going to tell me that Kerry lied and people died?
# September 13th, 2005 at 12:07 pmWhy would I care what Kerry said? He didn’t lie.. and neither did Bush. They had bad intelligence.
# September 14th, 2005 at 8:25 amI wish to direct your attention to particular website concerning this matter, it will be most enlightning, I assure you. http://www.911inplanesite.com
# September 14th, 2005 at 8:53 amIf you truly believe that 9/11 was an inside job, you might be an idiotarian, ok Pete, IS YOUR TURBAN TIED TO TIGHT AROUND YOUR F@#KING HEAD!!! seriously, a plane crashed into the building, how much longer do ya think its gonna stay up, and oh, yea we probably didnt see what happened inside the Pentagon because most dealings in the building are top secret! Why are people such morons, if you seriously think that the government wanted to kill a bunch of high ranking officers in the pentagon you should go live in a lovely little european country called France!!! Damn you people and your bullsh!t!
# September 14th, 2005 at 12:09 pmAnd bd I have been waitin for someone to say that for the longest time, everybody blames the messenger.
# September 14th, 2005 at 4:58 pmAnd Pete… I would like to adjust your attention to a particular thing called… reality.
# September 14th, 2005 at 5:54 pmBetter make sure you’re wearing your tin foil hat, Pete. I hear Karl Rove turned the rays from the mind control satellites up to full power after hurricane Katrina.
# September 14th, 2005 at 7:04 pmMe, (Kind of funny; feel like I’m talking to myself!) you might want to check the bad intelligence that you’re getting. There were no personel in that portion of the pentagon, it is a well known fact that it was under construction. Rather then take my word for it, why not invest a little more time in uncovering what is true. And Chad, here is a reality check for you; People Lie!
# September 15th, 2005 at 5:34 amomg!!11 its a conspiracy!!! bush is teh devil!!!1
# September 15th, 2005 at 6:31 amStupid is what stupid does! Forest Gump.
# September 15th, 2005 at 8:02 amI’ve heard it all before, Pete: Scientific American and Popular Mechanics lied for the Empire, and there were gunmen on the grassy knoll and the freeway overpass too.
# September 15th, 2005 at 8:52 amIdle, all I’m trying to suggest to anybody who cares (and that may be everyone reading this, and then again maybe not!) that “things” may not always be what they seem. You can accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist, but then again when there is verifiable proof, there is no theory. Instead you’re left with conspiracy. I too can pretend like all the things that I’m looking at with my own two eyes are fallacious, but then again I would only be pretending. Let the facts speak for themselves, not the words that I’m writing. I once again revert to the http://www.911inplanesite.com website.
# September 15th, 2005 at 10:26 amOk explain this to me, if there were no people in that part of the building, how did people in the Pentagon die?
# September 15th, 2005 at 11:13 amHere’s a web site for you Pete, and it’s only one of many, that packs its guns the other way re. American Airlines flight 77 and the Pentagon:
http://www.geocities.com/roboplanes/757.html
The facts speak for themselves.
# September 15th, 2005 at 11:34 amMe; the people who reportedly died at the Pentagon, were the construction workers that were in the process of renovating it. I’m not making this stuff up, this was reported by all the major news agency, not they don’t lie either. That the portion of the pentagon that was hit was, without a doubt, vacant of all military personel. Idle, thanks for the link, I will take a look at it and get back to you in regards.
# September 15th, 2005 at 12:17 pmIdle, I just took a look at that website you brought to my attention and I honestly find one major flaw with what they’re trying to say.That is primarily that the pentagon collision was a vertical or “near” vertical impact. The flaw with this statement as any unabated footage of the pentagon tragedy would show is that it was indeed a horizontal or “near” horizontal impact. The top part of the portion of the building where the impact occured was still intact till some time after the fire persisted. This can be very clearly seen in any footage you look at that was not tampered with. Just a note; I’m not French, I know very little about the French, I didn’t even know that they were hell bent on uncovering the “mystery” of 911, I’m just a stupid New Yorker who believe it or not is disgusted by liberal agendas; regardless I have to say that I am not however digusted by truth. If I misuderstood what I read Idle, please! and I mean it, enlighten me. I personally don’t feel that this issue that I’m bringing up finds it’s roots in “Bush bashing”, on the contrary my opinion is that President Bush is a very small component of what truly is a conspiracy, not to pardon him in any of his possible responsibility, I’m only a messenger.
# September 15th, 2005 at 12:39 pmOk, I had the opportunity to tour the pentagon with my AFJROTC squadron and we took a tour of the building and the part that was hit by the plane, the plane came in so low that it took the radio tower off of the Sheraton hotel and actually bounced off the ground about a hundred yards from where it impacted the side of the Pentagon.
# September 15th, 2005 at 1:30 pmOh and by the way there were military personell in that section of the building, I have a friend whos dad works there and he lost several good friends in 9/11 at the Pentagon.
# September 15th, 2005 at 1:34 pmSorry to hear about the loss, me; but then your friends father should very well be able to confirm a well established fact that the portion of the pentagon that was hit was indeed underconstruction, and that all military personel associated to that part, (Where the impact occured) were moved to adjacent parts of the building, while “it” was under renovation. This also is one of the reasons given to explain why there was no videotaped footage inside that portion of the building where the impact occured. That there may have been personel floating around, possibly overseeing the construction, is by all means probable, but the assertion that it couldn’t be an inside job because if one thought that “the government would kill a bunch of high ranking officers” they might as well render themselves “morons” and establish a permanent resident in a “lovely little european country called France.” Well me I may be a moron, though I’m not to keen on moving to France, but when I know that the section of the Pentagon that was hit just so happened to be under construction; I would have to say it doesn’t take a moron to realize that whoever was responsible for this attack was trying very hard to take out “high ranking officials”
# September 15th, 2005 at 2:56 pmBy the way “me” your dipiction of what occured after touring the pentagon with your “AFJROTC Squad” only reestablishes the fact that it was indeed a horizontal, or “near” horizontal impact, thus refuting the very website that your friend Idle Hour sent me to. Maybe you were being sarcastic? I however don’t feel that this is a matter to laugh about, and I’m not in businesss in seeing how high I can get your blood pressure. I’m simply someone who stumbled across some very real and disheartening information. I don’t have any solutions either. I just feel that everyone who wants to know has the right to know, and I feel that I bear a sincere responsibility in passing on what I have received in order to bring people into the light of the matter. You all have a cognitive mind I pressume, why not use it? It isn’t ever necessary to take what you hear or read at face value. Yes this also includes the things that I’m saying, so I urge you all to investigate. This world wide web is a powerful tool, but even more powerful is your mind.
# September 15th, 2005 at 3:29 pmI was sayin that is was a horizontal impact not vertical, I didn’t even look at the website Idle posted, all I know is it wasnt a friggin inside job and the side was hit was hit by the terrorists because it was the defense side of the pentagon, the terrorists didnt care that it was being renovated if they even knew that it was, they were trying to send us the message we are not safe.
# September 16th, 2005 at 10:59 amor; if it was an inside job then the people responsible knew that it was under construction and therefore hit “it” (the pentagon) so as not to dispose of too much of “it’s” brainpower. Yet make a big enough impact to draw any attention away from “themselves” (the insiders) so as to dupe the everyday “IDIOTARIAN” into thinking that there is no possible way on earth that the “government” could attack “itself”. You see me, you don’t know there is no sure way you can know. People lie! Including our government, as well as our media. I’m not suggesting me, that it was indeed an inside job, I’m not privy to knowledge that the rest of the world isn’t. What I am saying however, is that we have been lied to. This my friend, unfortunately is a verfiable truth. A truth that you can either choose to accept or choose to ignore, that is each and everyone of our perogitives.
# September 16th, 2005 at 3:36 pmJeez whats with these long comments full of conspiracy theorys, and if your saying it might not be an inside job then when were we lied to about it.
# September 16th, 2005 at 6:08 pmWe were definetly lied to when we were told that a boeing 757 caused the damage that one would see looking at any unabated footage of the pentagon attack. I would suggest viewing some live news clips. It is physically impossible that a 757 did the damage as well as scientifically proven in the 911 in plane site dvd.
# September 17th, 2005 at 3:54 amNo, you were lied to when you first found that site, if you believe the “scientific” evidence provided by that site your stupider than I thought.
# September 17th, 2005 at 4:55 amI may be stupider then you think; me but I did purchase the video that has a lot more information then the website does. I could copy it for you and send it to you no cost to you if you wish.
# September 17th, 2005 at 8:39 amEven though I must say it’s kind of flattering to know that you intially did think I was as stupid as you apparently do now. Thanks!
# September 17th, 2005 at 8:49 amdidn’t think (typo above) (damn I am stupid.)
# September 17th, 2005 at 8:51 amHAHA! This is great. Pete…yer crazy and yes…they are out to get you.
It’s all fun n games goin aong with the whole conspiracy theory, but the occupants of this site have greater faith in the basis this country was founded on. We may not like alot of the things the government is doing, but we don’t buy into conspiracy theories that the government has been playin us as fools for as long as anyone can remember.
And on a somewhat related note, did(do) you watch X-Files?
# September 17th, 2005 at 2:04 pmI’m not quite sure what faith in the basis of what this country was founded on has to do with the undeniable fact that “we” as occupants of this country were lied to when we were told that a 757 hit the pentagon. I apologize, maybe I didn’t realize that this country was founded on the notion that we have to believe every word that comes out of a government officials mouth. Maybe I also don’t realize that while I’m occupying this site and yet don’t share your same view Heath, that I somehow must not be occupying it because everyone who does occupy it thinks it’s all “fun n games” Well Heath this is obviously not the case and unless you know a way of kicking me off this site, it’s never going to be the case. And yes X Files is one of favorite shows along with Star Trek, not quite sure I see the parallel though.
# September 17th, 2005 at 3:43 pmI’m not sure exactly how you’ll take this Heath but out of respect for you and all the men and women who put thier life on the line for this country and our freedoms I would like to go on record in saying thank-you. You must understand that I would truly like to believe in our government in saying that all of it’s actions were justified and that not one soul that has passed through this world, has done so in vane. I really would like to believe this, but a little thing known as truth gets in the way. I am truly humbled in comparing myself to a soldier, I once wanted very badly to be a soldier, but the courage wasn’t there. This is why this reality really hits home with me and why I do say what I say. A soldier is more then a man, and not one should ever be disposed of in vane. By-the-way, I really don’t watch X-Files of Star Trek I do read and pray alot.
# September 17th, 2005 at 4:16 pmhey, I don’t think of myself as deserving. I serve my country for what I believe in, and not to get the appreciation of others. But I do appreciate the thanks you have for the sacrifice of those in service.
From what you’ve been saying on here, it’s nothing to get banned for. You have a very different point of view which is something we can all debate on…the very point of this site. What is keeping you from getting the boot is that yer not spewing all kinds of stupid insults like “slope skull” and whatnot. Libs tend to bring some pretty lame arguements that are based purely on “feelings” and “what their heart tells them”. And as christians we do not deny that the heart speaks(compassion, mercy, etc) we tend to go about business with rulings from the brain. But then there’s those other times where we just feel like making fun of something.
And to defend that last paragraph from looking like some sorta “tolerance disclaimer”….we don’t. If you bring yer stupid ideas and have no intelligence to back them up, we’re just gonna make fun of you until you leave or get banned. We do not have to tolerate your views…you just have to play smart enough to stay in the game long enough to put out yer arguement.
Welcome to Pass the Ammo…where many a lib have been broken.
# September 17th, 2005 at 4:53 pmI’ve been in the business of breaking libs for a very long time Heath, I personally find it to be my duty as a christian. By your last remark however, you look at me otherwise? I promise you and every other person reading this that I vow to defend all “CHRISTIAN” principles that this country was founded on, right down to every living souls right to live. I will however never get in the way of what is true. Because isn’t that a christian principle Heath? Didn’t Christ say “I am the Way the Truth and the Light”? On the other hand I very rarely speak or write with emotion, unless you of course are my wife and even then hardly ever, but forever try to remain ever aware and cognitive of what is going on around me. Compassion truly finds its roots in cognitive thinking, that is to say the heart moves through what is true, not through what someones feelings dictate to it. This is pure emotion and somtimes even diabolical. (finding its origin from the devil.) I stay away from this form thinking at all costs. So I say to you Heath, bring on the Ammo, you will find that your arsenal will soon be empty.
# September 18th, 2005 at 4:22 amJust a reminder Heath, there is no such thing as a “smart enough” liberal. Smart; maybe, smart enough; never. Hopefully you will soon realize that I’m not the enemy but rather a friend. Like I said to the other “guys” I’m in it just to raise the old blood pressure, but instead to take care that I’m always mindful of my duty to pass on truth. This is what makes us christians stand out and above all the rest. Like Christ said; “Where the eagles gather, there you will find Me.” An eagle is a bird that flys alone and higher then all the rest. So you see there’s no fear on part in partaking with an unpopular reality.
# September 18th, 2005 at 4:43 amNot in it, I’m sorry not in it to raise the old blood pressure. I better proof read myself before I send.
# September 18th, 2005 at 8:50 amYa like when you were saying you were flattered by me not thinkin you were stupid before.
Even though I must say it’s kind of flattering to know that you intially did think I was as stupid as you apparently do now. Thanks!
I know you corrected yourself but its still funny.
# September 18th, 2005 at 9:01 amEnjoy it! That ones on me. I’ll try not to be as stupid next time.
# September 18th, 2005 at 10:03 am:lol::mrgreen::twisted::wink::twisted::oops::razz::roll:
# September 18th, 2005 at 5:03 pm