Pass The Ammo

I love the old WW II documentaries when they play the song “Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition.” But that has nothing to do with the great email you received.

It seems to me, after reading the Bible through several times, that the Messiah has a good understanding of human nature. One of the amazing things in history is that He chose to NOT use self-defense. I don’t see where he says you cannot defend yourself or those you love.

Also, let’s remember the story of the Centurion who went to Jesus to get healing for a servant. Jesus didn’t tell him to leave the Roman military because war was bad/weapons were bad… ad nauseum. No. But Jesus did to the people around Him, about this Centurion, “I have not seen such faith, even in Israel.”

So, all I have to say to you is “praise the Lord, pass the ammo”!

Well covered, Chad. It is always shocking how many Christians want to gloss over Luke 22:36 and do not realize that Jesus’ admonition to “turn the other cheek” refers to the beard-pulling and face slapping that was the paradigm for authority-challenging personal insult in 1st century Palestine (and even before then in that culture). Yes, we turn the other cheek at an insult, but there is nowhere in Scripture that tells us to allow our families to be victimized. On the contrary, Paul tells his readers that someone who does not “provide for” (or even have a plan for. The word is PRONEW: consider beforehand; from PRO-before and NOUS-thinking/mind/consideration) that person has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. Yep, we’ve got a plan at our house. By themselves, the kids are locked (in my Study), loaded (the Mossberg 590), and ready to go in under 30 seconds.

I have been following your website for quite some time and I must say High five! You guys are great! Keep up the awesome posts and put the liberals in their place. Glad to have found Praise the Lord, Pass the Ammo! God Bless!

Mike
New River, AZ.

Krunk, what we do without you?:roll:

Great reply Chad. . but I think our corresondant Mr. Gunn will be well protected. He doesn’t appear to own a gun but he does have possession of that great weapon of Biblical times, the one so successfully used by David. . . The Jawbone of an Ass.

Hello there!
I am a visitor to this site and find it tremendously intriguing!
I have just a few comments on the ongoing discussion.
I would definitely agree with you, Chad, that it is one’s responsibility to protect his/her family. As well, I cannot express my agreement enough when it comes to the fact that a gun is a tool.

Which brings me to my question.

I am well aware that arms are protected in the Constitution. You have to keep in mind that this word ranges from a slingshot to nuclear or biological weapons. Therefore, I have concluded that the second ammendment is granting its people the right to use a tool to provide for their families. (In most cases, I would believe that this meant a firearm for protection, or hunting for food). I’m not exactly sure of your position on assault weapons, but don’t you believe that such a device is a little superfluous for security? Just wondering. Not to stereotype, but most conservatives believe that other countries should not be in possession of similar weapons (hence Operation Iraqi Freedom, cleverly titled to avoid the original reasons given for entering the country), and I have often found that certain people believe in a double standard when it comes to their own tools. So if you could kindly fill me in on your position, it would be appreciated.

And my first point.

Regarding Ben Gunn’s statement concerning Jesus not approving of “Gunns.” I couldn’t help but notice that both of your quotations are found in the Old Law, rather than from the mouth of Jesus, Himself. Of course, it is impossible to find a direct quote of Him discussing firearms, as they weren’t present at the time. However, I have spent a good amount of time while writing this investigating anywhere I can find Jesus directly tackling the topic of the appropriate levels of self defense, but I’ve found nothing. My best conclusion, is to live by example, as we Christians should do. Jesus was very much the pacifist, therefore, I believe physical self defense should be used as a last resort, and guns used only when absolutely necessary (though the chances are minimal).

Nevertheless, that point is beside the pertinent issue at hand. What I want to focus on is the image this site is creating. By comparing a tool at the same level of our Almighty Savior in the name of this site (Praise the Lord, Pass the Ammo), I believe a form of idolatry is occuring. And I’m sure you know this is a sin. If you truly believe that a gun and its accessories are mere tools, then why is the font larger and adding emphasis on “Pass the Ammo”, rather than “Praise the Lord”? I’m not trying to judge you, Brother Chad, I’m merely trying to help you along your path, as our Christian family should. Though I’m sure Jesus would approve of providing for your family, I do not believe He would smile upon such pride in the insignificant tools used to do so.

Much love to you, my friend.
Ryan

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BTW:

I wanted to make a clarification on one of your quotations. I believe your quotation from Ecclesiastes is taken a bit out of context, as it is actually discussing the power of teamwork. If you read carefully you can find in the NIV that Eccl. 4:7-12 is titled “Emptiness of Unshared Lives”. Nowhere is it speaking of the right to protect yourself. Rather it is discussing how the presence of others can pull you out of unfortunate personal situations. As I’ve mentioned earlier, in no way do I disprove of protecting yourself, I merely wanted to make the elucidation.

Dear “me”,

First, keep in mind that we still haven’t provided efficient evidence that Iraq even possessed nuclear weapons (at the time of our attack). That’s why our president officially discontinued this campaign in December of 2004. He admitted his mistake in assuming Iraq had weapons in a speech last fall. It was big news. Too bad you seemed to miss it.

Second, the United States is the ONLY country to have used nuclear weapons on another. No other country has ever put such terrible weapons to use. Large difference indeed.

Third, the United States is not all roses and candy. Yes, even we have participated in supporting terrorists or untrustworty countries. Do you not recall us siding with the Bin Laden campaign in order to discontinue Soviet occupation? Or how about Mr. Rumsfeld personally delivering weapons to *GASP* Iraq? And did you know we originally backed Pol Pot, merely because of his stance on Communism?

So it looks like we are really no more qualified to handle such power than any other country. Sorry. Having the biggest ego really doesn’t count.

Fourth, I don’t believe you need a tool which is capable of ripping a man apart in order to protect yourself. A bit extreme. Especially in the “pride” department I was speaking of earlier. I see it more as a kid on the playground, pushing the button too far just to see who will get ticked.

first of all about the nukes… it was not us or them they didn’t have them
hey Chad just because you lost yourself with big words doesn’t mean it isn’t interesting or good you should just open a book once in a while and learn something

P.S. Ryan i was not getting after you just our friend Chad

Oh no… not Mr Gunn again.

Hellmark you are absolutly right “The stupidity of people today is astounding. “

I was reading more of this website an i found this

“if a frenchman has an NRA membership before any of you…. we are all ingrates! ”

i wanted to state to all of you who have a very small capacity for information if it wasn’t for the FRENCH there would be no U.S. they helped us become a Nation by fighting against the British

and I wanted to enlighten you to something that Chad has not posted yet the NRA was a white members only club when it started in 1871 right after the KKK was outlawed can any of you inbreeds see the connection?

Hello there Chad!

I was wondering if you could respond to the favor I asked you. You know, the one about filling me in on your position concerning the double standard belief I have found common, even with such people as this “me” character. It would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I must say I am rather disappointed in the feedback I have received from you. I do not view your statement (”your ‘debate’ became completely uninteresting as the stupidity level rose”) as a valid argument against the points I have made. Personal attacks do not prove anything. But while we’re on the topic, why don’t you point out the parts of my post that you believe are so absurd?

Actually, wait a second, I’m not sure if that comment was directed at me. However, if it wasn’t, that means you still have not given me feedback and I am still disappointed.

Isn’t that your job as webmaster?

You know I wish people like Ben Gunn wouldn’t take it upon themselves to try to convert you guys, or whatever. Please don’t allow him to speak for all liberals. Some of us can think our arguments out…

I think Ryan’s points were a much more intelligent criticism of the site, even though I don’t share his religious interests or anything, and that’s really the point of discussion…

Concerning Iraq, there is one thing that has puzzled me ever since it began. Aftre 9/11, we invaded Afghanistan because the Taliban harbored Al-Qaeda, fine with me. And then there’s this lull where nothing much is going on, and then BAM, the bushies start harping on about Iraq. What I find strange is that there was nothing in particular - no act of overt aggression by Hussein or the like - which triggered this sudden fixation with Iraq.

This is what I think lends creedence to many of the now-cliche arguments, like that it was an oil war, or about finishing off whatever the elder Bush started, or (and this is my personal favorite) about distracting people from harmful domestic issues in the run up to the elections.

Now you will likely respond that it was about freeing the Iraqis from oppression, but if that’s the criteria, I can think of a great number of better places to start - Belarus, North Korea, Iran, Sudan.

Can somebody enlighten me as to why it had to be Iraq instead of one of the myriad other countries that are more oppressed and worse off?:beer:

hey ‘Me’ this is for you and your comment

“Dropping nukes saved lives on both sides so dont even try to argue that we shouldnt have used them.” I am interested to hear you explain how the dropping of Nuclear weapons on civlians saved lives in japan

and people actually ARE ‘entitled’ to an intelligent debate it is unintelligent people like you that get in the way of very easy debates and obvioulsy there are other opposing views or else it wouldn’t be a debate genius

Ok, look at it this way, we killed several hundred thousand Jap civilians, large number I wont argue with that. Had we invaded Japan we would have lost several million and they would have lost even more. Have you ever seen “Enemy at the gates?” The Japanese would have done basically anything to win a ground war AKA fight to the death. They would have poured civilians and soldiers alike into the war without regard for their body count. The Japs in WWII believed it was better to die than to lose. I wish it hadnt had to come to the use of nukes but I think several hundred thousand is better than several hundred million.

If you dont believe that the Japs were willing to fight to the death and if you want to see some of the things that they as well as the US did read “Flyboys.”

Hey I got a statment for you: Ben = Tard

How’s that for intelligent debate ya sick freak?

my mom did.t drop me on an my head and “musta” is not a word along with “yer” and Enemy at the gates is a movie

did you think to yourself why would we have invaded Japan? we could have blockaded thier island

Ah, ok Chad. Very understandable. I’m almost interested in their points, so don’t make them TOO mad or they’ll go away and we won’t have anybody to play with!

Very nice!

thanks Chad i can see Christ flowwing through your words more and more this website is becoming Praise Satan and pass the ammo

JJ i don’t understand

Colleagues? What are in the “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?”

I bet if you were in the League you would look like this guy.

Wow, that is lots of comments there. I, as usual, have to agree with the rest of the conservatives on this site so, yeah, no more to add there. But when Ben made the comment that our soldiers should just point their fingers and yell BANG! it made me think of a joke, stop me if you have heard it, lol. (This joke is not edited for historical accuracy and is purely for entertainment, although trenchwarefare may well have happened between the Germans and the Polish, not sure.)

A new private in the German army was assigned to the German/Polish front during the war. Upon arriving there he found that not only had he not been issued a weapon, none of the soldiers had weapons. Wondering at this he went over to his command officer.

“Sir, I see the Poles in their trenches over there and we do not have any weapons, how are we supposed to stop them?”

The officer smiles. “Well private, when the Poles come up over their trenches you just pretend you are holding a rifle and yell BANG! BANG! BANG! It works, trust me.”

The private, slightly confused by this and thinking it would never work went back to his post and waited for the charge. About five minutes later the Poles came charging over no-mans-land and the private raise his ‘rifle’ to his shoulder and yeled BANG! BANG! BANG!…he stared in amazement as for each BANG! a Polish soldier went down. The Poles then ran back to their trenches.

A little while later the Poles came at the Germans again, our brave private raise his ‘rifle’ and yelled BANG! BANG! BANG!…nothing happened, the Poles kept coming. In horror he yelled “Sir, it’s not working!!!”

From faurther down the line someone yelled back, “Pretend your throwing a grenade and make a BOOM! sound.”

The private, not caring how dumb it sounded, throw his arm back and let lose his ‘grenade’ and yelled BOOM! Poles flew into the air while the remainder fled back to their trenches.

Night was beginning to fall and the fighting wound down for the day, but early the next morning the two sides were back at it again. After throwing back a few Polish attacks with their ‘rifles’ and ‘grenades’ the Germans were confident that they would win as the Poles prepared what looked like a final assault on the German lines.

As the Germans looked out from their trenches they saw the Poles advancing slowly across no-mans-land looking odd in a slightly hunched over position, muttering something. When the Polish got close enough they let loose with ‘rifles’ and ‘grenades’ to no effect. The private and his squadmates just looked at each other as the Poles came closer and closer. As the Poles reached the edges of the trenches and came down into them with the Germans and then back out the other side the Germans heard what the Poles were muttering quietly…’Tank’ ‘Tank’ ‘Tank’ over and over again.

The joke is lots funnier being told out loud with actions such as shooting, grenade throwing, and tank driving. Hopefully some of you laugh at this and if not, I promise, it was supposed to be funny.

hey guys thanks for the piratey jig

oh and by the way when chad had nothing left to argue about in our E-mails he left me a picture of my house i guess to try and scare me off he also said this

“You’d think that living in rural Texas, you’d learn to appreciate a firearm.”

and no i wouldn’t appreaciate a gun you know why i don’t need one i don’t see the need to buy one

you know fear shows intelligence

a tree has nothing to be afraid of because it has no brain like i assume you do

hey Chad i think that Ryan is still waiting for a reply just you know whenever you are ready

if that wasn’t a threat then what were you trying to prove?
that you can use google maps

here do it again find the capital of Texas

was this your answer to Ryan?

“If you want my position on the matter, try going through my archives, till you find it. I won’t repeat myself over and over to every liberal moron who thinks he can best me.”

if so could you make it easier for us and just say it out here becuase there is so much mind numbing garbage to sort through

hey Chad about the grandmother thing do you really think that a “Frail Grandmother” would ward off the oncoming gun wielding criminal because i would think that the criminal would probley still attack the grandmother and now he has a new gun

Last time I saw this much $|-|17, it was at a cattle ranch.

Chad - I can’t really respond to the Links for Libtards because none of them are from any kind of official news agency (and don’t even start the stuff about me being a slave of the liberal media again, because I wouldn’t even be here if I was.) There is absolutely no way I can know if any of the stuff that guy is saying is true, but suffice to say that I believe him to be greatly exagerrating the links between Al Qaeda and Hussein greatly. Despite his brutal atrocities
and undoubted WMD ambitions, Saddam’s government was (other than Israel) the only secular one in the region (even if only by name). Al Qaeda didn’t need Saddam Hussein to back them up, they had Iran, Afghanistan, etc. Plus, Al Qaeda operatives have flocked to the country since the occupation began, so that problem has by no means been solved.

“Saddam qualifies as WMD”? So does Robert Mugabe, who bulldozed half of his capital city, displacing hundreds of thousands of people and killing any opposition. So does Kim Jong Il, who is starving his country to death trying to build nukes. So does Mr. Lukashenko of Belarus, who Condi Rice called “the last true dictatorship in the center of Europe.”

Zimbabwe:
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/President_Mugabe_bulldozes_homes_of_200,000_across_Zimbabwe

North Korea (Go to “Economy”):
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/kn.html

Belarus:
http://www.data.minsk.by/belarusnews/042005/61.html

and the poem rocks.

sorry cori i was watching a movie and a reply how many times has your family’s lives been at risk?

Ben, may I suggest that you refrain from commenting for a few months and just read what these people have to say. My initial response to this website, like yours, was incredulous outrage, and I made all kinds of angry comments until Chad finally banned me. After ~6 months of just reading what they had to say without being able to respond, I think I’ve come to understand, if not accept some of their positions, particularly the pro-gun stance. These people are entirely outside your social paradigm and you would do well to hear the arguments they have, this may be the only opportunity you have.

sorry on not responding Cori i was outside cutting trees for my grandfather and no i would not like to disrespect any family that has sufferd the fate we speak of

and i was just saying that some people are over ‘protected’

you still haven’t addressed to points in my comment.

Hey, I like to think you guys have learned something from me too. I still think your anti-gay position is pretty irrelevant and dumb, and the arguments for the war in Iraq are weak at best, but it’s been refreshing to see that another point of view really does exist (it’s the kind of thing they tell you about in school, that happens “over there”, if you know what I mean.) I would encourage you guys to visit intelligent liberal sites and talk to intelligent liberals, but like intelligent conservatives, they are few and far between. (I still hate the liberal/conservative labels…)

Even you guys could do a lot better than you do, but i suppose the offhand dismissals and insults that you sling at most people who disagree with you are something of a defense mechanism at the amazing amounts of morons that come your way.

In a way it’s pathetic that this is the only place were I can communicate with “conservatives”, but better than nothing…:cool:

Wow. Ya know, those last few comments from Ben… Seems like he has a whole lot going on in his life. Maybe on his mission trip to New Orleans he’ll see why some people need guns to defend themselves. Remember the shooting? Although, he’ll probably come back with the idea that “guns should be banned and things like that wouldn’t happen” blah blah blah bull crap. Go figure.

Is there such a thing as an “Intelligent Liberal”

Is there such thing as an intelligent human being? heh.

Me? No… although the Onion is based in Wisconsin, so it must be good. I live in Maryland, the suburbs of DC, which is why I find this site so interesting…

So, BG, let’s hear about New Orleans.

we stayed in a school building that had been cleared out and we had about one pancake and some oatmeal for breakfast, penutbutter and jelly sandwich for lunch and a mixture of turkey and gravy with a of green beans for dinner

Wow. Nasty stuff. The heat’ll do that to stuff in a hurry. Pancakes, oatmeal, PB&J, and turkey, gravy, and green beans? Not too shabby. Hope you’re not complainin.