Comments on: Walk The Line Censored http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/ how far is heaven? i'll go tonight. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:09:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: JJ http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26408 JJ Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:41:55 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26408 I gotcha. I gotcha.

]]> By: Guav http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26403 Guav Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:00:45 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26403 OK JJ, I can understand that, now that you've put it like that. And I can see why you'd want his faith to play a more prominent role in the movie and be more visible, and it would have presented a more in-depth view of who Johnny Cash was as a person. I have no disagreement with how you would have liked the movie to have been—I'm just saying that the movie was not "censored," a charge that NewsMax makes without citing any evidence whatsoever. There was not some nefarious conspiracy to keep his faith out of the movie, it's just not the movie that they and Cash chose to make (unfortunately). OK JJ, I can understand that, now that you’ve put it like that. And I can see why you’d want his faith to play a more prominent role in the movie and be more visible, and it would have presented a more in-depth view of who Johnny Cash was as a person.

I have no disagreement with how you would have liked the movie to have been—I’m just saying that the movie was not “censored,” a charge that NewsMax makes without citing any evidence whatsoever. There was not some nefarious conspiracy to keep his faith out of the movie, it’s just not the movie that they and Cash chose to make (unfortunately).

]]> By: JJ http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26381 JJ Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:07:10 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26381 I wonder why they named the movie "Walk the Line." Wasn't that song written for his first wife? And wasn't it about him being a "good boy" while he was on the road? Weird. Guav, I think that this issue is more sensitive to Christians because they hold Cash up as a hero for Christianity and second chances. His life was a powerful testiment to the love and grace of Jesus Christ. Many of us wish it was more visible than a 3 second shot of him walking into a Babtist Church. I wonder why they named the movie “Walk the Line.” Wasn’t that song written for his first wife? And wasn’t it about him being a “good boy” while he was on the road? Weird.

Guav, I think that this issue is more sensitive to Christians because they hold Cash up as a hero for Christianity and second chances. His life was a powerful testiment to the love and grace of Jesus Christ. Many of us wish it was more visible than a 3 second shot of him walking into a Babtist Church.

]]> By: guav http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26376 guav Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:47:09 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26376 Like every movie about actual people & events, it wasn't entirely accurate in many ways: His dad wasn't as much of a jerk as he was made to be in the film, the chronology of the songs is out of order, etc. It's entertainment, and should be judged as such. That's why the books are always better. I'm just glad the movie was made, he deserved his own movie, and I'd have been happy to sit in the theater for another hour and watch more about his life, including his faith. But the movie ends in 1968. What you gonna do? Like every movie about actual people & events, it wasn’t entirely accurate in many ways: His dad wasn’t as much of a jerk as he was made to be in the film, the chronology of the songs is out of order, etc. It’s entertainment, and should be judged as such. That’s why the books are always better.

I’m just glad the movie was made, he deserved his own movie, and I’d have been happy to sit in the theater for another hour and watch more about his life, including his faith. But the movie ends in 1968. What you gonna do?

]]> By: Chad http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26365 Chad Sun, 19 Mar 2006 04:39:44 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26365 That makes a good point. But I still think that they made June out to be his saviour. Which she did have a role in that. That makes a good point. But I still think that they made June out to be his saviour. Which she did have a role in that.

]]> By: guav http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26361 guav Sun, 19 Mar 2006 03:12:50 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26361 <blockquote>that if the movie producers really wanted to depict Cash’s life accurately…</blockquote>But the movie wasn't about his "life." It was about a very <i>short</i> period in his life, a period in which his faith hardly played a dominant role. It's like complaining that <i>Cinderella Man</i> didn't have enough about James Braddock's childhood, his later life, or his faith. It simply wasn't <i>about</i> those things—it was about his decline and his rise to stardom. <i>Walk The Line</i> was about Cash's rise to stardom and his decline. I just don't understand what you think should have been in the movie that wasn't, that's all.

that if the movie producers really wanted to depict Cash’s life accurately…

But the movie wasn’t about his “life.” It was about a very short period in his life, a period in which his faith hardly played a dominant role.

It’s like complaining that Cinderella Man didn’t have enough about James Braddock’s childhood, his later life, or his faith. It simply wasn’t about those things—it was about his decline and his rise to stardom. Walk The Line was about Cash’s rise to stardom and his decline.

I just don’t understand what you think should have been in the movie that wasn’t, that’s all.

]]> By: JJ http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26360 JJ Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:22:35 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26360 But for the record I dislike you as well. But for the record I dislike you as well.

]]> By: JJ http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26359 JJ Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:22:17 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26359 Dont know what yer talking about. Dont know what yer talking about.

]]> By: Chad http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26353 Chad Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:00:37 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26353 Kingdom of heaven? okay, that one doesn't even count. stupid movie, more about "history", and we don't even know how accurate it is. Passion of the Christ - Was supposed to be about Christ, not our dependancy on him. Another "historical" type of film. And that was made by Mel Gibson, who doesn't really classify as "hollywood" since he is a regular badass and doesn't care what they think anyways. I know that alot of Cash fans will agree with me (and newsmax)... that if the movie producers really wanted to depict Cash's life accurately... they would of had his faith in the movie. I do know that Cash had a say on the first half of the movie, while he was living. But that first half of the movie was before Cash was saved. Kingdom of heaven? okay, that one doesn’t even count. stupid movie, more about “history”, and we don’t even know how accurate it is.

Passion of the Christ - Was supposed to be about Christ, not our dependancy on him. Another “historical” type of film. And that was made by Mel Gibson, who doesn’t really classify as “hollywood” since he is a regular badass and doesn’t care what they think anyways.

I know that alot of Cash fans will agree with me (and newsmax)… that if the movie producers really wanted to depict Cash’s life accurately… they would of had his faith in the movie.

I do know that Cash had a say on the first half of the movie, while he was living. But that first half of the movie was before Cash was saved.

]]> By: guav http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26350 guav Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:33:38 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26350 <b>Chad</b>, <i>Kingdom Of Heaven</i> made $20 million in it's first week, and <i>The Passion of the Christ</i> ended up bringing in $370.3 million. It's not that Hollywood is scared of Christian themes, it's that the movie simply was not intended to be about Cash's faith—and that was as much Cash's decision as this faceless "Hollyworld" demon that NewsMax blames (even though they give no evidence whatsoever that the movie was "censored" or that the movie was radically changed after Cash's death). <b>Guav's Conscience (JJ)</b>, I rarely read the New York Times and I haven't read the Village Voice in years. I hate NewsMax and WorldNetDaily on the right for the same reason I hate Capitol Hill Blue on the left—they're like garbage tabloids, the junk food of news sources. I don't hate all of you nor do I think you're all pretty cool—I like Chad and I don't like you very much. But you don't like me either so that's OK. I voted for Badnarik. I'm certainly liberal on a lot of social issues, but I'm conservative when it comes to affirmative action, gun rights, illegal immigration and some other issues. I don't <i>know</i> what makes me, and I don't really CARE—you can call me whatever makes you happy if you have to pigeonhole everyone into one of two camps. Chad, Kingdom Of Heaven made $20 million in it’s first week, and The Passion of the Christ ended up bringing in $370.3 million. It’s not that Hollywood is scared of Christian themes, it’s that the movie simply was not intended to be about Cash’s faith—and that was as much Cash’s decision as this faceless “Hollyworld” demon that NewsMax blames (even though they give no evidence whatsoever that the movie was “censored” or that the movie was radically changed after Cash’s death).

Guav’s Conscience (JJ), I rarely read the New York Times and I haven’t read the Village Voice in years. I hate NewsMax and WorldNetDaily on the right for the same reason I hate Capitol Hill Blue on the left—they’re like garbage tabloids, the junk food of news sources.

I don’t hate all of you nor do I think you’re all pretty cool—I like Chad and I don’t like you very much. But you don’t like me either so that’s OK.

I voted for Badnarik.

I’m certainly liberal on a lot of social issues, but I’m conservative when it comes to affirmative action, gun rights, illegal immigration and some other issues. I don’t know what makes me, and I don’t really CARE—you can call me whatever makes you happy if you have to pigeonhole everyone into one of two camps.

]]> By: Chad http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26349 Chad Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:37:00 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26349 It's not about the "theme", Guav. It's about the fact that they woulden't put it in the script because its "not cool" in hollyworld. It’s not about the “theme”, Guav. It’s about the fact that they woulden’t put it in the script because its “not cool” in hollyworld.

]]> By: Guav's (conscience) http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26345 Guav's (conscience) Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:14:30 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26345 My name is Guav and I hate Newsmax. I love the New York Times and the Village Voice. I have lots of guns so don't call me a liberal because I will get very upset and I might even sob uncontrollably. I am an Independant damnit! I voted Kerry though. I also am the intellectual authority on everything you dumb hicks could ever write about. Go ahead and try to post something without me finding some relative article with shady statistics that I can quote which will ultimately prove how smarter I am than you guys. Was that a run-on sentence? Nevertheless, I have tattoo which makes me a tough liberal. Wait, I am not a liberal...what am I saying? I hate you all. But you guys are pretty cool. Wait. What was I talking about? My name is Guav and I hate Newsmax. I love the New York Times and the Village Voice. I have lots of guns so don’t call me a liberal because I will get very upset and I might even sob uncontrollably. I am an Independant damnit! I voted Kerry though. I also am the intellectual authority on everything you dumb hicks could ever write about. Go ahead and try to post something without me finding some relative article with shady statistics that I can quote which will ultimately prove how smarter I am than you guys. Was that a run-on sentence? Nevertheless, I have tattoo which makes me a tough liberal. Wait, I am not a liberal…what am I saying? I hate you all. But you guys are pretty cool. Wait. What was I talking about?

]]> By: Guav http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26339 Guav Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:39:50 +0000 http://passtheammo.com/2006/03/walk-the-line-censored/#comment-26339 Don't be ridiculous Chad. First of all, the movie was not "censored"; it was not radically changed after Cash died as you (and NewsMax) are inferring. The movie you see is the movie Cash himself helped make for 7 years before he died. Dude, it's based on his autobiography. Keep in mind that both the beginning and end demonstrate Cash's faith—first as a child singing hymns, and at the end attending church services with June after his recovery. His faith bookends the period of Cash's life that the movie is about—his quick rise to fame and the crash that soon followed—the period of his life where he drifted from the path of God. It showed what happens when you embrace promiscuity and drugs, when you allow your ego to take over. The movie was about a profoundly UN-Christian time in Cash's life. And remember that it was not Gospel that made Cash famous, and not until after his rise to fame, his decline and his recovery did he really start to once again sing about God, having once again found him. The movie is not supposed to be about happily attending church and living a clean and pure life, it's about a lengthy struggle with drugs and alcohol, when he was pushing God away and basically destroying himself. And most importantly, it's about REDEMPTION, a fundamentally Christian theme. It's sad that NewsMax has ignored the underlying message of the movie just so they can politicize a very un-political movie. And sad that you're so eager to repeat that nonsense. Don’t be ridiculous Chad. First of all, the movie was not “censored”; it was not radically changed after Cash died as you (and NewsMax) are inferring. The movie you see is the movie Cash himself helped make for 7 years before he died. Dude, it’s based on his autobiography.

Keep in mind that both the beginning and end demonstrate Cash’s faith—first as a child singing hymns, and at the end attending church services with June after his recovery. His faith bookends the period of Cash’s life that the movie is about—his quick rise to fame and the crash that soon followed—the period of his life where he drifted from the path of God. It showed what happens when you embrace promiscuity and drugs, when you allow your ego to take over. The movie was about a profoundly UN-Christian time in Cash’s life.

And remember that it was not Gospel that made Cash famous, and not until after his rise to fame, his decline and his recovery did he really start to once again sing about God, having once again found him.

The movie is not supposed to be about happily attending church and living a clean and pure life, it’s about a lengthy struggle with drugs and alcohol, when he was pushing God away and basically destroying himself. And most importantly, it’s about REDEMPTION, a fundamentally Christian theme.

It’s sad that NewsMax has ignored the underlying message of the movie just so they can politicize a very un-political movie. And sad that you’re so eager to repeat that nonsense.

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