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	<title>Comments on: The Abortion Post</title>
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	<description>how far is heaven? i'll go tonight.</description>
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		<title>By: Simple Simon</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37232</link>
		<dc:creator>Simple Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Maybe those activists should spend there energies teaching some moral fortitude as opposed to insisting governments provide free condoms and cough-up at our expense endless amounts of money to cure a disease that is easily avoided."

1) While the government can enforce a particular moral code (hence laws) it can not teach people to live by that code. Plus, under our system of government, people have the freedom to have lots of sexual partners. Is that a good idea? Probably not. Should they be allowed to do it? You betcha.

And the government DOES try to discourage irresponsible sexual through public service announcements and other means, but there's only so far they can go - sex is largely a personal issue.

2) Condoms ARE NOT EXPENSIVE! You must be joking! Our government may be "Throwing endless amounts of money away", but it sure isn't on connies.

3) In many countries, particularly in Sub-saharan africa, the AIDS prevalance rate is so high (about 25% in South Africa, roughly 5 MILLION people) and testing is so expensive and hard to get, that one can never really be sure about any sexual partner. (Note: The spread of AIDS in South Africa, something which i studied briefly, has less to do with lack of moral fiber among the population and more to do with a devastating lack of awareness and accurate infromation about the disease. For example, there is a very common (and persistent) myth in South Africa and a lot of other african countries that the disease can be cure by having sex with a virgin...) In those cases, there is no doubt that condoms are the cheapest and most effective way to spread the disease. That is why it is so disastrous when prominent church figures start telling people that condoms violate God's will, or whatever.

4) And Chad, I do not have AIDS, nor do I have sex with multiple "loose women". I have much more respect for women than that. But the people who are most at risk of catching the disease are the ones who know the least about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe those activists should spend there energies teaching some moral fortitude as opposed to insisting governments provide free condoms and cough-up at our expense endless amounts of money to cure a disease that is easily avoided.&#8221;</p>
<p>1) While the government can enforce a particular moral code (hence laws) it can not teach people to live by that code. Plus, under our system of government, people have the freedom to have lots of sexual partners. Is that a good idea? Probably not. Should they be allowed to do it? You betcha.</p>
<p>And the government DOES try to discourage irresponsible sexual through public service announcements and other means, but there&#8217;s only so far they can go - sex is largely a personal issue.</p>
<p>2) Condoms ARE NOT EXPENSIVE! You must be joking! Our government may be &#8220;Throwing endless amounts of money away&#8221;, but it sure isn&#8217;t on connies.</p>
<p>3) In many countries, particularly in Sub-saharan africa, the AIDS prevalance rate is so high (about 25% in South Africa, roughly 5 MILLION people) and testing is so expensive and hard to get, that one can never really be sure about any sexual partner. (Note: The spread of AIDS in South Africa, something which i studied briefly, has less to do with lack of moral fiber among the population and more to do with a devastating lack of awareness and accurate infromation about the disease. For example, there is a very common (and persistent) myth in South Africa and a lot of other african countries that the disease can be cure by having sex with a virgin&#8230;) In those cases, there is no doubt that condoms are the cheapest and most effective way to spread the disease. That is why it is so disastrous when prominent church figures start telling people that condoms violate God&#8217;s will, or whatever.</p>
<p>4) And Chad, I do not have AIDS, nor do I have sex with multiple &#8220;loose women&#8221;. I have much more respect for women than that. But the people who are most at risk of catching the disease are the ones who know the least about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stevil</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37231</link>
		<dc:creator>Stevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole condom/AIDS BS is such a fallacy (LOL). 

If you are in a monogamous loving relationship and don't have multiple sexual partners or deviant sex then there is nothing to be concerned about. 

Maybe those activists should spend there energies teaching some moral fortitude as opposed to insisting governments provide free condoms and cough-up at our expense endless amounts of money to cure a disease that is easily avoided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole condom/AIDS BS is such a fallacy (LOL). </p>
<p>If you are in a monogamous loving relationship and don&#8217;t have multiple sexual partners or deviant sex then there is nothing to be concerned about. </p>
<p>Maybe those activists should spend there energies teaching some moral fortitude as opposed to insisting governments provide free condoms and cough-up at our expense endless amounts of money to cure a disease that is easily avoided.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37190</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 04:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea, well im pretty sure that no one else here has to worry about that. Because we stick with our God ordained mate, and don't loosely run around with strange wimmin.

you don't do that either, right simon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea, well im pretty sure that no one else here has to worry about that. Because we stick with our God ordained mate, and don&#8217;t loosely run around with strange wimmin.</p>
<p>you don&#8217;t do that either, right simon?</p>
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		<title>By: Simple Simon</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37176</link>
		<dc:creator>Simple Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 01:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Condoms are also good for preventing the spread of nasty buggers like AIDS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condoms are also good for preventing the spread of nasty buggers like AIDS!</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37165</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with JJ. I'm glad he has the knowledge on this. I went under the knife, OUCH!!! After our second...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with JJ. I&#8217;m glad he has the knowledge on this. I went under the knife, OUCH!!! After our second&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stevil</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37147</link>
		<dc:creator>Stevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJ blathered: “Natural Family planning” is actually 99.9% accurate...

Bwa ha haa haa ha... you got some "actual" statistic's to back that one up? 

BTW I'm not pickin' a fight, I agree with your position just have a better handle on reality. :razz: :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ blathered: “Natural Family planning” is actually 99.9% accurate&#8230;</p>
<p>Bwa ha haa haa ha&#8230; you got some &#8220;actual&#8221; statistic&#8217;s to back that one up? </p>
<p>BTW I&#8217;m not pickin&#8217; a fight, I agree with your position just have a better handle on reality. <img src='http://passtheammo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /> <img src='http://passtheammo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37132</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All chemical contraceptives are abortifacients.  Their main purpose is to prevent ovulation, if that fails, it lines the uterus wall with a thick mucus that will not allow the 'already conceived' baby to attach itself... killing it.  Jimmy caps are the only thing that doesn't kill.  

Some Catholics and Conservative Protestants believe that condoms impede God's natural purpose for sex... conception.  This may be true to some degree but at least you are not killing babies by using them.

There is also another option: NFP.  "Natural Family planning" is actually 99.9% accurate if done correctly.  There are some drawbacks to NFP, though.  You must abstain 10-12 days a month.  Also, the female must take her temp every morning at the same time and log it in a chart.  This temp recording acts as a map to ovulation.  Very interesting stuff.  My wife and I use it, but when we got lazy with it, our newest little one was a result. :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All chemical contraceptives are abortifacients.  Their main purpose is to prevent ovulation, if that fails, it lines the uterus wall with a thick mucus that will not allow the &#8216;already conceived&#8217; baby to attach itself&#8230; killing it.  Jimmy caps are the only thing that doesn&#8217;t kill.  </p>
<p>Some Catholics and Conservative Protestants believe that condoms impede God&#8217;s natural purpose for sex&#8230; conception.  This may be true to some degree but at least you are not killing babies by using them.</p>
<p>There is also another option: NFP.  &#8220;Natural Family planning&#8221; is actually 99.9% accurate if done correctly.  There are some drawbacks to NFP, though.  You must abstain 10-12 days a month.  Also, the female must take her temp every morning at the same time and log it in a chart.  This temp recording acts as a map to ovulation.  Very interesting stuff.  My wife and I use it, but when we got lazy with it, our newest little one was a result. <img src='http://passtheammo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37129</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea, i dont mind the jimmy cap. I have friends who won't use em. But they aren't against anything i believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea, i dont mind the jimmy cap. I have friends who won&#8217;t use em. But they aren&#8217;t against anything i believe.</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37128</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 21:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>contraceptives that don't kill are ok in my oppinion. the morning after pill is a slippery slope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>contraceptives that don&#8217;t kill are ok in my oppinion. the morning after pill is a slippery slope.</p>
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		<title>By: Simple Simon</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37121</link>
		<dc:creator>Simple Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meh, i've lost my momentum. so let's move on: What of contraceptives? Do you approve/accept their use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meh, i&#8217;ve lost my momentum. so let&#8217;s move on: What of contraceptives? Do you approve/accept their use?</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37079</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Simon, but I dont see anything in there with your name on it. If its been over 7 days then it was auto deleted. Might wanna re-submit that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Simon, but I dont see anything in there with your name on it. If its been over 7 days then it was auto deleted. Might wanna re-submit that.</p>
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		<title>By: Simple Simon</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37041</link>
		<dc:creator>Simple Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 01:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>em, i think mine got spammed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>em, i think mine got spammed</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://passtheammo.com/2006/08/the-abortion-post/#comment-37034</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not sure how this landed in the spam box. you gotta give me a heads up sometimes, if it doesn't show and doesn't say "awaiting moderation" :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not sure how this landed in the spam box. you gotta give me a heads up sometimes, if it doesn&#8217;t show and doesn&#8217;t say &#8220;awaiting moderation&#8221; <img src='http://passtheammo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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