Vicotry in New Orleans
08.21.06For those who remember back during Katrina, the City of New Orleans went around confiscating guns from everybody (read: law-abiding citizens who needed means of self defense from roaming thugs). So the NRA took em to court. God bless the NRA.
This week, in a landmark victory for NRA and law-abiding gun owners, Judge Carl J. Barbier of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana denied the City of New Orleans’ motion to dismiss NRA’s lawsuit against the city. Further, Judge Barbier held that the Second Amendment does apply to law-abiding residents in the State of Louisiana and the City of New Orleans. Incredibly, the City of New Orleans persisted in desperately clinging to its anti-gun agenda by contemptuously arguing just the opposite–that the Second Amendment does not apply to residents in the State of Louisiana and the City of New Orleans.
NRA first filed suit after Hurricane Katrina, when firearms were confiscated from law-abiding New Orleans residents. Former New Orleans Police Chief Eddie Compass issued orders to confiscate firearms from all citizens. With that one order, the means of self-protection that innocent victims had during a time of widespread civil disorder was stripped away.
NRA filed suit in federal court and won a preliminary injunction ending these illegal gun confiscations. After the City of New Orleans failed to comply with the court’s ruling and falsely claimed that the gun confiscations never occurred, NRA filed a motion for contempt that included an order directing all seized firearms be returned to their rightful owners.
After strenuously denying the illegal confiscations for months, on March 15, 2006, Mayor Nagin and the New Orleans Police Department (NOPD) finally conceded in federal court that the seized firearms were stored in two trailers. The city then agreed in court to a process by which law-abiding citizens would be able to file a claim to receive their confiscated firearms. However, few firearms were returned because the NOPD never notified gun owners how to claim their guns, and turned many away citing impossible standards for proof of ownership.
Today’s ruling sets the stage for a continued legal fight in which NRA will be forced to expend additional resources to fight back the anti-gunner’s blatant and shameful attempts to ignore the Second Amendment. The case will now move to discovery and pre-trial preparation.
Another article: Statement from Chris Cox.
I don’t care what other people say. The NRA does more for gun rights than anyone else. You can take that to the bank.








yep. thankfully organizations such as the NRA exist or our freedoms would be stripped away one by one by the fed & state gubmints. personally i think we could deal with a nice big overhaul on many gubmit levels. but thats just me. your average joe –er–jane.
# August 23rd, 2006 at 7:12 pmThe GOA were actually the ones who originated the suit, and invited the NRA in on the proceedings. Yes, the NRA may be bigger and better funded and make the GFW’s quake in their boots, but their lack of integrity in not even recognizing their participation with other groups is astounding.
# August 24th, 2006 at 4:27 pmI did not know that. I just read through the GOA material on their site. I also sent this letter to the NRA-ILA.
# August 24th, 2006 at 4:57 pmYea!!! For the GOA. I love those guys.
# August 25th, 2006 at 2:32 pmWell. I probably should have looked into your story of the GOA leading the suit in New Orleans, before I wrote into the NRA.
Here’s is the responde I received from the NRA
So I decided to read a bit further into the GOA’s material, and I saw this.
I should have never doubted my club.
# August 26th, 2006 at 9:48 amAh man, that sucks. Can’t we all just get along?
I have a dream… that one day NRA members and GOA members can hold hands and shoot inanimate objects in complete, unadulterated, harmony.
# August 26th, 2006 at 10:26 amwell… I’m glad the truth is out… thanks for the information… I am probably going to send in my support next week.. once I move into the new place.
# August 26th, 2006 at 12:16 pmJJ - I dont think it’s really about gettin along per say. More about where your money gets the most mileage.
# August 26th, 2006 at 2:10 pmI’m still wrestlin with who to give my money to. I see both points of view.
In a related senerio, I don’t support National Right To Life because they allow for too many exceptions in the legislation they try to pass and support. They truly make me sick with their lack of a backbone. I’m not one to compromise with the evil pro-abortion, baby butcherin’ lobby.
I know that the gun law and abortion law differ but the same principles apply. A wise man once said, “Stand up for something, or you will fall for anything.” To truly stand firm in your principles one must resist the temptation to compromise. Even if it ’seems’ to bring instant success. In the long hual you could lose out big.
JJ, out.
# August 26th, 2006 at 6:41 pmAh, abortion. that terrific divisive issue. a question: do you guys support abortions for rape victims?
that’s all for now.
# August 28th, 2006 at 5:50 pmno. we don’t support “allowable” murder for rape victims. Ever hear of adoption? Nothing big. Just the humane and sane way of handleing the tragic situation of a rape birth.
# August 28th, 2006 at 10:44 pmThats one of the few cases I can see where I wouldnt have as much of a problem with it, of course adoption would be the best option, however I can see where the woman who was raped is coming from. Congress however would never be able to pass a law to allow some abortions and not others, as soon as you say rape victims can get abortions you’ll have a bunch of women who want an abortion saying that they were raped.
A second and final case I can see where abortion might be “justified” would be if the mothers health was in danger.
# August 29th, 2006 at 4:20 amWelcome back simon. Murder is kinda-sorta, maybe, could be, considered devisive. I’m just glad my momma thought that I was more than a mere choice, to her, life was already decided when she chose to do the procreation act. I nearly killed her when I was born.
# August 29th, 2006 at 10:26 amChad,
Adoption sounds nice, but the fact is that there arent enough adoptive families to take the children up for adoption already. Most likely, such a child is condemned to a life as a ward of the state (an orphan), without a family. Either that, or the woman must keep the child, and is provided a living reminder of how she was sexually violated.
Also, as Van Zant says, pregnancy is rarely without health consequences for the mother. Despite what modern medicine might have you believe, no pregnancy is without serious risk. A mother might well die or become permanently impaired giving birth to the child of her rapist.
Thirdly, in cases were probably fatal medical complications are forseen by a woman’s doctors I think it should be the choice of the woman whether she wants to take that risk.
In fact, pro-choice is an almost liberatarian policy, giving the freedom of discretion to the individual. That some mothers might abuse the right to abort (Side note: I think Roe vs. Wade was a bad judicial decision as it had little or no basis in the Constitution. The “right to abort” was written into the constitution, but that’s another matter.) is no argument against it because all of our other freedoms (e.g. of speech) are abused by some people.
Basically abortion is a very case by case thing, and therefore difficult to legislate. Sometimes I sympathize with the mother and think she should be allowed to have an abortion and sometimes i dont. It should only be a last resort.
# August 29th, 2006 at 10:34 amadoption sounds nice? adoption IS NICE. My family has fostered children all through my growing up. Some of these foster siblings were then adopted by folks in our church. these kids came from messed up homes where their single mothers would whore themselves out to feed drug habits. They would leave there kids in the park during an entire day, half dressed, while they went off of drug binges.
The only problem with adoption is that the state looks to make a profit off of it, by charging so much darn money to adopt. (the other side of that, it ensures the family is dedicated to caring for them)
if pro-choice is libertarian, then so is pro-murder-at-will.
Do a little research, and you’ll find tons of instances where a “doctor” told a lady that it “might possibly, slightly cause her… hmm… some discomfort” to have a baby, so she should feel free to late term abort the 8 month old living, breathing, feeding human being. This way the doctor gets paid, and coulden’t care less about the slaughtered offspring. Of course those doctors are going to hell twice, in my opinion.
Here’s the main FACT. Birthing has been risky since the fall of man. That means all of history.
So for you to support the conscious murder of a woman’s offspring…. is completely messed up, and immoral.
And you’re all about nature right? Show me where else in nature a mother would slaughter herself to save her own ass? NOWHERE! Animals gladly sacrifice themselves to preserve their youngin. A doe with a fawn, will lower her head and charge at an oncoming vehicle, if it spooks her just right and she thinks yer fawn is in danger. Of course this breaks her neck and kills her.
For a mother to slaughter her child is the most unnatural, disgusting act of human selfishness I can think of.
Try and rationalize it all you like. In the end, it is complete human degredation and perversion.
and for you think that a beautiful baby child would be a “living reminder of how she was sexually violated” is a thought of complete ignorance. I can safely say this because my cousin happens to be a rape baby. Thats right. Not exactly “awesome information” that folks like to put out there. But she loves him dearly. When he was in highschool he was in a motorcycle accident, became permantly brain damaged, and on top of everything, she has cared for him like he was an infant for over 30 years.
Don’t even try and tell me that isn’t “natural” or that it “scars” her for having her son.
Your opinions are ignorant ones. rant over.
# August 29th, 2006 at 6:17 pmYou know… this is a bit out of place. lemme make a post to carry this on.
# August 29th, 2006 at 6:44 pm[...] This is the continuation of a debate that started in a previous post. It was out of place, so I figgered I’d haul it over to it’s own stomping grounds. Abortion is a sensative topic to myself. I know it is to my friends as well. The meat of the conversation has already been said, so I’ll reproduce it here. Continue Reading [...]
# August 29th, 2006 at 6:52 pm