Imposing On Culture
08.07.07
I would just like to take this time to talk about how America imposes it’s will, culture and beliefs on other countries, and how very wrong that is.
Who do we think we are? going into the glorious nations of the middle east and telling them that they shouldn’t be allowed to smoke yer ass for mocking the koran. I mean, I see nothing wrong with this video, from the morally superior high ground that I walk upon. Each to his own, I say. Be sure to write your favorite hollywood celebrity, begging them to take action against this illegal war.
On a side note, this video makes a very good object lesson for us. The people on the ground dying are called sheep. The masked dudes with guns are called wolves. And the American soldiers are the sheepdogs.
Holy shit
# August 7th, 2007 at 10:11 pmwhats this? im gonna have to ask that you do not insinute that what they are doing might be bad in anyway. thats highly intolerant of you, and intolerence will not be tolerated. er, wait. did that make sense to you?
# August 7th, 2007 at 10:14 pmOh wow….a complete disregard for human life. What a suprise coming from the Muslim’s. HAHA! And to think that there are people who actually think that America is wrong for trying to stop this shit.
Kinda like that Emo bitch screaming for people to end violence while threatening to punch holes in the heads of violent people…..so weird. So odd todays society and cultures are.
“I long for the coming of Armageddon. I long to see this world in flames.”
Where blood and fire bring rest.
# August 8th, 2007 at 12:11 am- ZAO
I don’t think my mind can comprehend the satanic cruelty of Islam. They keep saying that our streets will run red with our blood. Given the chance they would try and do it. Does America have enough freedom loving, old fashioned patriots, gun carrying, men and women left?
Dad told me he heard on the news they were thinking about listing gun permit owners on the internet, like sexual predators. Insane. God be with our soldiers!
# August 8th, 2007 at 4:50 amOh wow, something horrific happened in the world somewhere? We should immediately invade and occupy every country where people do horrific things to ensure that nobody is murdered in cold blood anymore. After all, it’s clearly enumerated in our Constitution that our Sacred American Duty is to export western-style democracy so that nobody in the world ever gets executed in cold blood again.
I can’t believe those silly librulz think that the American military can’t put an End To Evil across the globe for once and for all—don’t they have faith in the military’s ability to solve every problem the world faces? Are they nuts or something?
Might I suggest you start the Crusade Against Horrific Crimes in Newark, NJ please?
# August 9th, 2007 at 6:03 amGuav - yer so cute when you defend jihad. i just wanna pinch and wiggle yer little cheeks. but yes, you’re right. We should be exporting out western-style democracy and good Christian values to heathens such as these. Especially when they make it their life mission to invade America, fly ginormous lanes into our buildings, etc.
and i would love to fly myself to Newark, and personally dispatch of the executioner and gang, but im actually at work right now, so maybe on my lunch break.
# August 9th, 2007 at 9:17 amWhere was the part where I “defended jihad”? I’ve re-read my comment several times, but I can’t seem to find it. Can you please point out where I defended jihad, or said anything that sounded even remotely like a justification of what that video depicted?
Because all I see is me calling it an evil horrific murder. If referring to something as evil and murder is “defending it” in your book, then I guess you’re a “defender” of abortion.
# August 9th, 2007 at 10:47 amP.S. The problem is not exporting democracy itself, the problem is the ridiculous idea that the best way to do that is by killing lots of people. Spreading western values is great—it’s just that you can’t really do that by blowing sh*t up.
# August 9th, 2007 at 10:48 amyea, yer right. maybe you didn’t come out and say “im making the declaration that i defend jihad”. but yer sassy tone was laced with hints of “its cool they kill people, we shouldn’t do anything about it, so leave jihadi’s alone”.
uhhh… sure you can. thats the only way to do it. Look at Japan. We dropped 2 nukes on their ass, and I can’t think of another country that wishes they were America as much as they do.
Give it 10-15 years, and all the mooj’s over there will be sporting pomp’s and singin and dancin to elvis in the town square. God Bless America.
# August 9th, 2007 at 11:12 amI didn’t come out and say it because that’s not what I was saying at all. Funny how that works.
No, my sarcastic tone was laced with hints of “It’s not cool at all that they kill people but it’s not our responsibility to cleanse the world of evil, and even if it was, such an undertaking is impossible—but if we felt that we had to try, invading countries is not the best way to do it.”
Uhhh … Japan already had a parliament with a house of representatives whose members were elected and who formed Japan’s cabinets until the Japanese military usurped the parliament’s role in the mid-30s. So even though Japan’s democratic institutions were able to resist the militarism that took over in the ’30s, we were not introducing new concepts of government in that country, nor were we building them from scratch.
Iraq has had only military coups, assassinations, political executions, and tribal and ethnic rebellions since the ’30s—no one there can remember an extended period of guaranteed human rights, freedom of expression or the rule of law.
Japan had a literate, talented, industrially and technologically competent population. Iraq does not, at least not to nearly the same level. The Japanese population was homogeneous—Iraq has serious religious and ethnic divisions.
Furthermore, our occupation of Japan was seen by the Japanese people as being entirely legitimate. In addition to the fact that they formally declared war upon us in the first place, there had been a formal surrender by the Japanese and the occupation and reconstruction had been endorsed by Emperor Hirohito himself. The Japanese government remained intact at all levels and there were no hostile political or religious factions within the country fighting us or each other—there were no insurgents, there was no civil war.
Japan and Germany were like companies whose building had burned down and just needed some capital to get rebuilt. Iraq is like a company that is putting a business together for the first time and has no experience in doing so. Seventy percent of all new businesses fail.
No. They won’t.
# August 9th, 2007 at 1:37 pmCorrection: Oops, that should have read
But I’m sure you realize that.
# August 9th, 2007 at 1:43 pmOf course its not our role to rid the world of evil. But when it is an evil that it directly oppossed to us and trying to take us out it then becomes our problem and responsibility. This type of libertarian non involvement in the world is simply naive and dangerous.
# August 10th, 2007 at 8:12 amI’m not talking about non-involvement or complete isolationism. I’m talking about fighting the battles we need to fight, and not creating ones we don’t.
Going into Afghanistan to crush the Taliban & Al Qaeda = Necessary, good idea. We should finish the job.
Going into Iraq and wrecking the entire country, thus creating a failed state and terrorist hotbed = Unnecessary, strategic blunder of epic proportions that will create blowback for decades.
I’m in favor of an intelligent & muscular foreign policy, not a belligerant & idiotic one. The commentary that accompanied this video implies not that we should be fighting these people out of self defense, but because they are Very Bad People—that’s not conservative.
I have yet to see any compelling evidence that the invasion and occupation of Iraq has benefitted us more than it has harmed us. If it cannot be shown that this is more beneficial than harmful, then why are people still going out of their way to defend what was clearly an enormous mistake?
# August 10th, 2007 at 9:36 amIt is really stupid to compare an isolated crime tragedy in the US with a daily basis applied quran / islamic justice, and justify that shit.
Westerns democracies are not perfect, but for sure I prefer a western democracy other than that shit of islamic justice. Now it is clear why the US must remain in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Human right defenders? Gitmo bashers? Amnesty international? Zeropean intelectuals? Leftist MF? They sure do not have the time to watch this horreondous crimes.
# August 10th, 2007 at 10:54 amI wasn’t seriously comparing the two, I was being sarcastic, keeping in line with the rest of my comment.
# August 10th, 2007 at 12:16 pmGuav- Well since Afganistan was basically just a wasteland used by terrorists it was quite easy to justify targeting them. What now though? Of course, no other nations are gunna openly admit supporting terrorism or have terrorist training camps because they don’t want to recieve our wrath. What then? Should we only attack in cases like Afganistan where it is extremely obvious and easily justifiable?
# August 10th, 2007 at 4:11 pmIt was quite easy to justify targeting Afghanistan because that’s where the terrorists who attacked us were.
Yes, we should only go to war with another country—incurring the immense cost in both dollars and lives, both military and civilian—when it is extremely obvious and justifiable. How could a moral person claim otherwise?
You know what you get when you don’t have high standards like that? You get Iraq.
# August 11th, 2007 at 10:24 amAnd people said the same before we entered WW2. There are plenty of times when its just not that obvious (at least to some people :wink:)
# August 13th, 2007 at 1:21 pmQUOTE: - “I would just like to take this time to talk about how America imposes it’s will, culture and beliefs on other countries, and how very wrong that is.”
So what about the mass immigration in to all White, Westernised nations? If it is wrong for Americans to impose their will and culture on the Middle East, then it is most definitely time to stop all mass immigration from non-White countries in to America, Britain, Australia etc.
Mass Immigration = GENOCIDE!
Stop the Third World invasion in to your countries, protect your childrens future and your ancestors pride!
BE A NATIONALIST!
# August 22nd, 2007 at 9:51 pmfirst of all, you missed the tongue in cheek.
second of all…. white power austrailians worried about american borders?
third of all, nobody here is interested in joining your white jihad.
# August 23rd, 2007 at 7:07 amI dunno Chad, don’t be so hasty … it might be fun to join the white jihad. Let’s give it some thought.
::thinking::
Oops, I forgot—I married a brown immigrant—I guess I can’t join.
So anyways, now that we’re done debating our membership … kind of funny how two of the “white nations” he mentions were actually populated by brown people before European “mass immigration.”
Although I guess, at least in the case of America, it does prove his point. Ask any Native American (if you can find one) and I’m sure they’ll agree that Mass Immigration = GENOCIDE!
# August 23rd, 2007 at 9:34 amnow… not to get all technical and whatnot… but i always figgered filipino was yellow… even tho technically, the skin is brown… but arn’t asians considered to be the yellow man?
# August 23rd, 2007 at 10:01 amTypically, yeah.
But Filipinos are bootleg Asians—the Spanish colonized it and humped the natives for three centuries, so the girls have really nice bottoms and everyone has Spanish names, along with being Super Duper Catholics (one of my new aunts is a nun!).
What’s really funny is on her birth certificate, under “Race” it says “Brown.” I shit you not. WTF.
# August 23rd, 2007 at 8:25 pmOops, I swore.
# August 23rd, 2007 at 8:25 pmbtw - you need to make a shirt for bea that says “bootleg asian”. that’d be awesome.
# September 12th, 2007 at 8:56 amI should
# September 12th, 2007 at 4:54 pm