Ahmadinejad’s Columbia U Speech
09.24.07I just finished reading president abul-ahmed-mohammed-jihad’s columbia U speech. And it was laughable. He basically dodged every question posed to him.
I just finished reading president abul-ahmed-mohammed-jihad’s columbia U speech. And it was laughable. He basically dodged every question posed to him.
I read in 2 paragraphs and stopped. I refuse to poison my mind with his words. To even think that this is allowed shows the degradation that is becoming abundant in our societies beliefs. He’s the enemy and yet he is praised here as an idol. Disgusting.
# September 24th, 2007 at 7:12 pmHavadinerjacket is a tool, a puppet and an idiot to boot BUT I will say Bollinger acted poorly and in bad taste, you don’t invite someone to speak and then set them up with a massive slam and insults right before they speak… talk about bad form, very rude!
BTW Persian women are hot… and very naughty.
# September 24th, 2007 at 10:26 pmStevil - you speak as if you had experience?
Heath mentioned the Iraqi girls were on the tad smokin side.
# September 24th, 2007 at 11:06 pmYah its weird!! It’s an un-tapped resource over there!!
# September 24th, 2007 at 11:15 pmI had an Iranian girlfriend briefly whilst a college… ah good times.
# September 25th, 2007 at 12:28 amThen there’s Israeli women… I wish I new how to post a pic.
# September 25th, 2007 at 12:32 amHAHA! No worries Stevil. We gotcha covered!
# September 25th, 2007 at 5:48 amCrap! It didn’t werk…
i tried to embed that Israeli Army Chicks video. Thats a good one. Heh heh.
# September 25th, 2007 at 5:49 amHeath, Ahmadinejad is “praised here as an idol”? Who of any importance or significance in this country praises him as an idol?
Stevil, I agree. Bollinger should have waited until after Ahmadinejad spoke and then verbally annihilated him.
# September 25th, 2007 at 7:18 amOh, and yeah … Persian chicks are super hot.
# September 25th, 2007 at 7:18 amHey Mahmoud,
# September 25th, 2007 at 8:48 amyou can take a stupid speech,
and make it dumber,
when times are bad.
p.s. the default picture rules
# September 25th, 2007 at 8:49 amIsraeli Soldier Babes
Photos by Rachel Papo
# September 25th, 2007 at 9:28 amI’m sold on that last one there.
Guav - Noone of importance of course….just a general consensus of mindless college drones who soak up so much crap in those hippie colleges that they all leave with brown eyes.
# September 25th, 2007 at 9:35 amSo in other words, nobody actually praises Ahmadinejad as an idol.
# September 25th, 2007 at 10:46 amOk, just making sure.
So you’re saying he’s popular among the mindless-college-drones-who-soak-up-crap demographic? That’s one of MTV’s target demographics!
I foresee a reality TV first: “Mahmoud’s Party Palace” - Ahmadinejad and five wacky twenty-something hostages from around the US are imprisoned in an Iranian palace for 90 days under the dictates of Sharia law. Sparks will fly!
# September 25th, 2007 at 2:44 pmthe real question was why he was invited to speak in the first place
# September 25th, 2007 at 3:58 pmIndeed it is. I guess that part was so obvious, I didn’t think to include it in the post.
# September 25th, 2007 at 4:26 pmSimon that would be one worth watching. Muhmoodinajihad would be one wacky host. I foresee homosexuals storming Iran for a block party…
# September 25th, 2007 at 7:36 pmHilarity ensues when one of the housemates has his hand cut off for stealing “Mahmoud’s” diet coke from the fridge!
# September 25th, 2007 at 11:42 pmGuav - Just because these drone college kids are of no importance to me, it doesn’t mean it’s not a threat. The fact that ANYONE would applaud ANY speaking point by that dude is unheard of. It’s insane! Compare it to that of a serial killer getting up on the podium and giving a speach on his feelings. Would ANYONE applaud that? Of course not, they would label him “sick” and needing help and would kick him off the stage.
If these morons would never put up a convicted murderer up on the stage to “debate” with him….why did they put this guy up there? It’s simply madness and shows(yet again) the corrupted state of our society.
# September 26th, 2007 at 5:26 amBut Heath, Ahmadinejad is not a convicted murderer. He’s a legitmate, although not very powerful, world leader, who was allowed into the country by our government which recognizes him as such. Any university would want a world leader to speak at their campus, especially a controversial one. BFD.
Why are you guys so opposed to letting demagogues publicly embarrass themselves?
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad isn’t any crazier than the Soviet leadership was back in the day—In fact, Iran looks a heckuva lot less crazy in a lot of ways. And yet we not only dealt with the Soviets, but spoke to their leaders and welcomed them on our soil. Because we were the superpower, and we believed in our country. Nikita “We Will Bury You” Khrushchev spent 13 days here, and Nixon went to the Soviet Union, as well as China.
Why are you not afraid to fight our enemies, but you’re afraid to talk to them?
And where are all those examples of anyone praising him as an idol? You made a very specific claim. Either show examples of Ahmadinejad being idolized by anyone significant (or hell, even insignificant at this point) or admit that nobody has done that and you just made it up.
# September 26th, 2007 at 9:38 amOne point… applause is a form of approval. Even if Hitler was speaking on the benefits of personal responsibility and the equality of mankind, I would not applaud him because that gives him my approval. Plus I would know his real stance and would be able to discern that his words did not truely match his actions. The approval alajemahabad got from the applause may have been directed to his statements but it ultimately was recieved by him and will be used to bolster him and his positions. Wrong move by the audience.
# September 26th, 2007 at 12:33 pmPolite and minor applause when the man says something not batshit insane is not approval of the man in general or of anything else he said. There was not thunderous applause, there were no standing ovations. Oh, and I forgot to mention—Ahmadinejad is not Hitler.
JJ and I are diametrically opposed on probably most issues. If JJ was running for president and was speaking publicly and said something about gun rights, I’d clap. Not because the dude is getting my vote, and not because I approve of his opinions on most topics. But just ’cause I’d give him credit for saying something not batshit insane that I agreed with
Whoopdee doo.
# September 26th, 2007 at 2:29 pmOops, I forgot to censor “bats**t.”
# September 26th, 2007 at 2:30 pmWay to go Guav. I knew there had to be someone out there (besides the numbskulls at Columbia) that approved of this guys speaking to our kids. There is a huge difference in this guy coming here and speaking to college kids and being transmitted over ever news channel and what we did with the soviets.
Amhadimajihad did nothing but come in our own backyard and piss in our Wheaties. There was no serious political dialog going on here between Heads of State. It was just a pulpit for him to spew his lies to our people. He should have been arrested while he was here for what he has been doing to our troops in Iraq.
If I didn’t have the flu right now and on the verge of blowing chunks, I would let you have it, further.
Pshhhhhh
# September 26th, 2007 at 2:37 pmGuav - Here’s the big difference in “applauding” and who you do it for.
Back in the 2004 elections, we all got to watch and listen to John Kerry talk about how he enjoys his goose hunting with friends, and loves shotguns. But… being savvy to his trickery, I knew that he was actually working to ban the very same shotgun he took on his bird hunt.
As much as I agree that, yes, shotguns and bird hunting are great, hearing it come from Kerry was a crock of horse sh-t. So there is no way on Gods green Earth, that I would clap for him.
Thus, there is no good reason, that any of those morons at the college should have been clapping for ahmedouchbags double speak.
# September 26th, 2007 at 3:17 pmOnly if by “Approve” you mean “Doesn’t give a s**t either way.”
I disagree with Ahmadinejad, but that’s precisely why I want him to be heard. Nothing discredits his credibility more than the sound of his own nonsense.
Yeah, you’re right, there is a huge difference:
Keep in mind, Khrushchev not only blatantly threatened us—”WE WILL BURY YOU!”—but he actually had the ability to attack us and inflict heavy losses.
Hahaha not with our Head of State there isn’t, because our ridiculous President refuses to engage in any.
That being said, it may come as a shock to you, but Ahmadinejad did not come here to speak at Columbia, he came here to … uhm … engage in dialog with Heads Of State. Which he did. Speaking at Columbia only happened because he was already going to be here. If he hadn’t been able to speak at Columbia, he still would have been here.
Oh no, the danger! Please protect us from his deadly words! I’m sure his speech caused mass conversions to Shiite Islam.
Arrested? You want to arrest a foreign head of state? Why can’t you guys ever think past the end of your noses? You want to do away with Diplomatic Immunity, a tradition since the 1700’s—in other words, you don’t want any U.S. official or diplomat to ever be able to leave this country again. You don’t want any future U.S. president to be able to leave the United States for fear of being arrested. Brilliant plan—a master stroke.
Secondly, you not only apparently don’t believe in Diplomatic Immunity for crimes committed on U.S. soil, but you want to arrest a foreign head of state for “crimes” allegedly committed in their own country. But let me guess—you don’t believe in International Law and don’t think the U.S. and government officials should be able to be tried in other countries or by the ICC, right?
Thirdly, the supposed crimes Ahmadinejad is guilty of—even though we have no evidence of any such crimes—is that he’s responsible for the killing of soldiers during a war? But again, let me guess—you don’t think that U.S. soldiers should be able to be tried for killing anyone by another country, right? Because it’s war, and in war, people die. You’ve said that before. And if our soldiers did kill anyone in a criminal manner while in Iraq, they’d be brought home and tried here. If Iran or Iraq ever tried to arrest a U.S. soldier and try them for murder in the country where it was committed, you’d lose your s**t. But you wanna arrest the President of another country and try them here for crimes we have no evidence of. I’m definitely not voting for you now, your foreign policy sucks, dude.
I hope you feel better.
# September 26th, 2007 at 6:06 pmChad, I think you should let us say “shit.” Is it really any different from us saying “s**t”?
Everyone knows what’s being said
# September 26th, 2007 at 6:07 pmguav. dont make me come over there.
# September 26th, 2007 at 6:18 pmI don’t give a rats ass if he comes over and spews his ridiculous venom, let everyone see Havadinerjacket for the fanatical fool he is BUT I do take issue with the way he was treated by Bollinger, that basically played right into his corner and handed him a huge propaganda victory over in Persia and the cesspool that is the greater Middle East. I cannot fathom why people have such a hard time understanding the Middle Eastern psyche.
# September 26th, 2007 at 11:07 pmGuav, you are pure amazement? I can’t quite put my finger on why you lefties will hoop and hollar about how we must be respectful to dictators and greet them with open arms, warm cocoa, and sugar cookies. The same dictators who have been aiding terrorists who attack our soldiers BUT do not show the same respect for Conservatives in our own country. I am sure you have a whitty explanation for this, filled with cites and links to wonderful supportive journalism that proves that conservatives are all fascists.
Speaking of fine journalism, if you all go over to Guav’s blog you will see the true Guav. On his banner is a quote from Sinclair Lewis that reads “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” You see? People like Guav believe that the conservatives in this country are equated to fascist dictators, yet they have no problems with real dictators, like Ahmadimjihadi.
On Guav’s blog you will find a plethora of Anti-conservative talk, which is quite different from his very moderate views here on PTA. I am especially fond of his recent post called “The Conundrum” where he all but suggest conservatives don’t practice what they preach and are essentially spineless. Oh yea, Guav, while you were riding your BMX in tha hood, I was serving in the United States Army’s 82nd Airborne Division with honor under my President William Jefferson Clinton.
# September 27th, 2007 at 1:45 pmdont go over there. it’s zombie country.
the thing about all those guys… is that they assume, cos of queer shinanigans that a few republicans pull… that we all think and act that way. like this foul comment from ol’ guav. and how we always “flip-flop” but they never do. the list goes on.
# September 27th, 2007 at 2:03 pmWow JJ, your SooperSleuthery has uncovered the shocking revelation that I am an atheist—bet you didn’t know that before—and that I am to left of you guys on most issues. I’m sure that will come as a surprise to everyone here, who surely believed I was a conservative Christian until you “outed” me. Dude, I thought we established literally years ago that I am not a conservative, yet this is the second time you’ve acted as if it’s a secret.
How did you manage to cover such a closely guarded blog? It’s not like it’s the second hit when you google “Guav” or anything. Chad’s known about my blog for a long time, and it’s not like you just discovered it today either. It’s almost as if your entire comment is a red herring to distract from the fact that you didn’t actually address anything I said. Naw …
The “Real Guav” here and there are the exact same person, except here I act like a guest—because I am essentially in someone else’s “house”—and I watch what I say. It’s called courtesy.
Yes, in The Conundrum I suggest that the advocates of the war in Iraq who claim that criticizing the Commander In Chief undermines our security will have absolutely no compunctions about criticizing the Commander In Chief should that end up being a Democrat in 2008. In fact, I am willing to bet money on it.
Chad, I most certainly do not believe that most Republicans are sexual deviants, but you must admit you guys have had a very bad year
# September 27th, 2007 at 4:17 pmGuav, you’re so cute when you’re miffed. Was it the “riding the BMX in tha hood” line? My bad.
Let’s face Guav, you are pretty two faced. You come on here with a much different attitude than when you’re in your natural moonbat element. Just making an observation, so there no need to get your undies in a twist.
# September 27th, 2007 at 4:47 pmWith all due respect, I start to find you very personable and friendly, then all of a sudden I check out your blog and you’re calling us conservatives: fascist hate-mongers. It doesn’t sit well with me.
# September 27th, 2007 at 4:53 pmNo JJ, I am proud of riding BMX
I’m not two faced at all—I come on here with a much different attitude than when I’m writing in my own blog simply out of respect for what is essentially someone else’s space. If you look at the non-political entries on my blog you’ll see I have a certain writing style that is extremely sarcastic, I swear a whole lot and tend to be a bit insulting. That’s just how my journal is, and the political entries are no different. However, I try to temper that when I post in other people’s blogs or public communities. I just see that as being polite.
However, whether I am there or here, my opinions on any given topic are exactly the same. I may present them in a more civil manner here, but I am not hiding anything or purporting to hold opinions I do not hold. If you ever want to know my stances on taxes, abortion, immigration, religion, war, liberals, conservatives, affirmative action, terrorism, free trade, North Korea, gun control or anything else, all you have to do is simply ask me and I will tell you. The answer will be the same whether you ask me in my blog, here at PTA or over at GG&G.
First of all, it’s rhetoric. Secondly, given that you guys routinely refer to liberals as “evil, hateful and spiteful,” cowards, “marginalized freaks,” immoral and bullhead, confused commie socialists who produce nothing and are not American, it seems a little bit silly for you to all of a sudden feel that generalizations are beyond the pale.
None of that stuff bothers me though, because I recognize it as largely rhetorical, and to the extent that you guys really feel that way, you’re entitled to because it’s your opinion. Now, onto the specific quote that has your undies in a twist.
Is that saying that I think all conservative Christians are fascists? Or is it saying that if fascism comes to America, I think it will be under conservative Christian auspices?
Let me put this another way: You guys think that if Communism comes to America, it’ll be wrapped in atheism led by a Democrat (Hitlary maybe?). I do not take that to mean that you believe that all Democrats are atheist commies, but merely that if Communism ever took hold here, it would be under liberal Democrat auspices. Most serial killers are white, that doesn’t mean that I think most white people are serial killers—know what I’m saying?
Sorry to get you all miffed—especially when you’re already not feeling well—but just be perfectly clear: I do not think Christians or conservatives are “fascist hate-mongers.”
# September 27th, 2007 at 7:22 pmChad, check out my new journal theme
# September 29th, 2007 at 6:24 amHaha! nice. I think you should have used this zombie photo of you.
# September 29th, 2007 at 9:23 amGuav I understand your position but it is a tad nuanced for us say what you mean folks, when you have “When fascism comes to America, it’ll be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross.” up on your blog it tends to be perceived as the statement it makes.
# September 29th, 2007 at 11:55 amChad, I would if I was all fancy like you. But I dunno web stuff, so I’m stuck with the theme options that LJ provides. I will, however, be making that into an icon immediately. I forgot all about that
Stevil, I understand that, and I can understand why you “Say What You Mean” folks might interpret it that way, but if anyone wants to ask me what I mean by something, I’ll explain. If they aren’t curious, I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.
And if you guys “Say What You Mean,” then your rhetoric is a hell of a lot more offensive and insulting than mine, in which case I can’t imagone why you’d be complaining in the first place.
# September 29th, 2007 at 4:07 pmI was speaking for myself I must admit.
# September 29th, 2007 at 4:25 pmPssh…everyone has said that before. No one really ever truly says what they mean all of the time. It’s just part of our nature as dirty, filthy, stinkin, nasty, putrid, humans.
I wish I was a unicorn, then I wouldn’t have to worry about that.
# September 29th, 2007 at 8:55 pmI wish you were a unicorn too. But I’d be wary with the company you keep, your stuffed head might just end up mounted on Chad or JJ’s wall
# September 29th, 2007 at 9:34 pmHow sweet would that be to have a unicorn head mounted on the wall?
# September 30th, 2007 at 10:12 amI’ve often hunted the mountains of north Idaho, to which unicorns are native. But I’ve never been able to spot one. Maybe that movie, The Last Unicorn was right. What if they really are all gone?
# September 30th, 2007 at 10:28 amHAHA You bandwidth stealing whore, they blocked your link.
# September 30th, 2007 at 3:13 pmIm such a whore. try it now.
# October 1st, 2007 at 8:45 am